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    Android Help What should I buy Thursday (Oct 03 2019) - Your weekly device inquiry thread!

    Android Help What should I buy Thursday (Oct 03 2019) - Your weekly device inquiry thread!


    What should I buy Thursday (Oct 03 2019) - Your weekly device inquiry thread!

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 04:11 AM PDT

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    Surface Duo first look: Microsoft's foldable Android phone

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 05:55 AM PDT

    OnePlus's Android 10 gestures are far and away better than Google's

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 01:58 PM PDT

    Another look at new Assistant and Motion Sense on the Google Pixel 4

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 01:33 PM PDT

    Live test: Watch how many folds the Galaxy Fold can take

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 12:27 PM PDT

    Google Play Books 5.4 adds a dark mode [APK Download]

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 08:59 AM PDT

    Google Pixel 4 Tips reveal "Pro Sessions" in Google One, Social Share in Google Camera, more

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 09:20 AM PDT

    Project Mainline only for phones that ship with Android 10?

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 11:48 AM PDT

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/4/20848251/android-10-review-dark-theme-focus-mode-gestures

    The Android 10 review on Verge mentions towards the bottom "Unfortunately, Project Mainline will only be available on phones that ship with Android 10 by default, not on those that upgrade to it.". Can anyone confirm if this is true? It seems like so many phones will miss out on this benefit of having security updates installed through the Play Store.

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    Late 2019, YouTube music still incompatible with Google services including, but not limited to home, & assistant

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 11:47 AM PDT

    And it's getting pretty frustrating, the only reason I got YouTube music in the first place was because it came with my YouTube Premium subscription, & I thought why not, I might as well use it if I'm paying for it.

    After a year of usage, I can say it works well on my device, but trying to get my assistant to shuffle a playlist while I'm on the road, or play anything that's actually in my library & not a YouTube video is impossible. I'd switch to Spotify if it wasn't for my YouTube Premium.

    If Google really wants this to replace GPM, this isn't the way to do it. YouTube music is one of, if not the most inconvenient music services I've ever used. I know they could make it so much easier, & better than what it is today, but it just seems like they don't care or something.

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    OnePlus 7T gets camera tweaks and other fixes with OxygenOS 10.0.3 update

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 09:33 AM PDT

    Microsoft's long term plans with Android

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 01:34 PM PDT

    With Microsoft's announcement of jumping back into the mobile market using Android, I think we might be seeing some exciting new developments down the line beyond just seeing an exciting new trinket from Microsoft.

    Microsoft's previous failures in the mobile market was heavily attributed to the inability to get app developers to write apps for its mobile Windows platform. This is no longer an issue now that Microsoft is fully embracing Android as its chosen platform, and they have a strong presence in the Android ecosystem already with their suite of productivity apps, along with their own launcher.

    I think, initially, their mobile products will play nicely with Google services and likely ship with a slightly 'Microsoft' flavored version of Android containing their launcher and their suite of popular apps such as Outlook, Edge, etc., and as required by Google's own licensing agreement, also containing all the Google services such as Play Store, Maps, Google Drive, Gmail, Chrome, etc.

    What I think may end up happening in the medium to long term, is that once they build a strong enough product presence in the market, they may voluntarily have a falling out with Google, and develop their own OS based on AOSP, in order to develop their own 'ecosystem' similar to what Samsung has been trying to do to mimic Apple for so many years, with their own suite of services and app store.

    Microsoft is uniquely positioned to be able to pull this off in that they already have many services that mirror popular Google services. They have their own cloud storage services, suite of productivity apps, Cortana, Outlook, Edge, integration apps with PC, etc.

    Even for Maps, though Bing Maps doesn't have a native mobile app yet, they announced a Bing Maps SDK earlier this year, and it may not be far off at all to see an app for this as well in the very near future.

    Since forking their own 'MS OS' based on AOSP would not run into compatibility issues with most existing Android apps, the very issue that ended up killing Windows Phone is also no longer a hurdle, should Microsoft decide to prop up their own app store / apk repo in place of Google's own Play Store. Having their own 'MS OS' gives them independence from Google, and given the aforementioned reasons, I think they'd be well on their way to create their own ecosystem, maybe finally breaking the duopoly of iOS and Google Android. I think Microsoft's recent developments in cross-platform integration is also hinting at the possibility of them trying to create what Apple has done with its products over the years.

    What do you think? Plausible?

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    Asus ZenFone 6 camera review - DXOMARK

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 09:06 AM PDT

    Google is working on NFC tag support for the Assistant's new Driving Mode

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 12:11 AM PDT

    If your phone has been randomly vibrating, here is a possible solution

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 05:22 AM PDT

    Hi Everyone,

    So my phone has been randomly vibrating from time to time for several weeks now. Turns out it was to do with the emergency alert settings. Turning them off has stopped it and since the UK doesn't use them, it's not a loss for me (note: this does not affect any flood warning or similar text messages you are signed up to, as they dont use your device's alert settings)

    If you live in or travel to a country that does use such alerts, it may be worth reenabling them for that trip.

    I suspect that in countries where the system is used, the phone does not vibrate randomly, as it can detect the system.

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    Maximizing USB-C phone charging speed, and understanding compatibility with your USB-C laptop charger (Tutorial/ Information)

    Posted: 03 Oct 2019 01:09 AM PDT

    Disclaimer: Any information here is purely for education purposes, and you should do your own research. I do not accept any responsibility for what you choose to do, and any damages that may occur as a result.

    EDIT: Updated for clarity

    Can you charge a USB-C device with a USB-C laptop charger?

    Short answer: USB-C devices generally supports USB-PD, which means the charger and the device can discuss which voltage/ current to charge at. In most cases you can simply plug your charger in, because:

    At any given power level, a source is required to support all lower voltages and power levels to ensure that higher-power supplies can support lower-powered devices

    As bobobo1618 said

    • You plug your device in to the charger, everything starts at 5V (so that nothing can be exposed to higher voltage than it supports)
    • Your device asks the charger which charging modes it supports
    • The charger responds with each voltage it supports and how much current it will allow the phone to draw at that voltage
    • Your device chooses whichever voltage it thinks works best and tells the charger to switch to that
    • Your phone draws whatever it needs in order to charge

    Can I charge MY phone with MY laptop charger?

    Example phone: Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, which charges at a maximum of 18W and can charge at 5V and 9V

    Laptop Charger Example 1) 45W Lenovo laptop charger https://imgur.com/a/FMIPwmD

    I can see my Lenovo laptop charger supports 4 main outputs.

    Output 1: 5V at 2A ---> 5V is appropriate to charge a phone

    Output 2: 9V at 2A ---> 9V is appropriate to charge most phones. If not, it will stick with 5V

    Output 3: 15V at 3A ---> 15V is too high too charge most phones

    Output 4: 20V at 2.25A ---> Will only charge my laptop

    My USB-C laptop charger can provide power at an appropriate level for my phone. The USB-PD technology inside the adapter should understand the required charging output of the device, and adjust accordingly.

    Laptop Charger Example 2): 45W Razer laptop charger https://imgur.com/nxLq7zC

    The Razer charger supports one main output

    Output 1: 20V at 2.25A ---> 20V is too high to charge a phone

    I couldn't say what would happen without testing it myself. Either way i'd strongly recommend not plugging a razer laptop charger into your phone, as it's probably given this rating for a reason. You should always check before plugging and forgetting.

    What else should I consider?

    Perks:

    • Quick charging speeds
    • Only need to bring one charger when you go out
    • A longer and much more sturdy charger then standard phone options
    • Lower cost then buying new adapters

    Cons/ Considerations

    • Your phone may get a little warmer from charging. Always charge in a safe place.
    • Using any 3rd party device, has the risk of something going wrong, so proceed at your own risk

    I was tentative to charge my phone with my laptop charger to begin with, as there is little discussion around the matter. My intention to discuss the topic, as I couldn't find much information around phone/ laptop compatibility. I hope this help explained the application of the technology.

    Really useful extra information: https://www.digikey.com.au/en/articles/techzone/2017/mar/designing-in-usb-type-c-and-using-power-delivery-for-rapid-charging

    TL;DR>! You can most likely use your laptop charger with your phone, but if you skipped the long answer then don't. Electricity is a dangerous thing so you should always understand what's happening.!<

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