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    IT Career [Week 12 2022] What would you like to know Wednesday? General Question Thread

    IT Career [Week 12 2022] What would you like to know Wednesday? General Question Thread


    [Week 12 2022] What would you like to know Wednesday? General Question Thread

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 01:12 AM PDT

    Not every question needs a backstory or long explanation but it is still a question that you would like answered. This is weekly thread is setup to allow a chance for people to ask general questions that they may not feel is worthy of a full post to the sub.

    Examples:

    • What is the job market like in Birmingham, AL?
    • Should I wear socks with sandals on an interview?
    • Should I sign up for Networking 101 or Programming 101 next semester?

    Please keep things civil and constructive!

    MOD NOTE: This will be a weekly post on every Wednesday.

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    30k - 170k in 6 years, What I got right, what i did wrong, and how i got lucky.

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 02:11 AM PDT

    Location: SLC, Utah. It's not an expensive city to live in, but it isn't dirt cheap, either.

    Very Big Company 1 - Helpdesk ~30k USD, 3 Months

    What I got right: Transitioned into a new career by leveraging a contracting company. Worked like a dog to impress higher ups. Always took the initiative, especially to learn.

    What I did wrong: It could've easily not worked. Luck played a really big part.

    How I got lucky: I got noticed and moved to deskside support almost immediately. I won't deny how lucky this was. I'm not going to downplay my part in this, though; if I had not been on the ball, I would not have been moved up. I just recognize that I got lucky here.

    Very Big Company 1 - Deskside Support ~40-50k USD, 2.5 Years

    What I got right: Worked hard, learned a lot. After a slump a year in, got back on and continued learning. For the last year, pressured my team lead into allowing me to work evenings, used quiet hours to learn Powershell, Python, C#.

    What I did wrong: Stayed for waaaaaay too long. I was still a contractor at Very Big Company 1 after nearly 3 years, hoping to get hired on. Don't rely on verbal promises, folks. Don't be like me here. I should've stopped contract work after a year and found a full time position. I didn't realize the scope of IT and how far down the ladder I was.

    How I got lucky: Dodged a few toxic coworkers, for the most part.

    Midsize Company 1 - Deskside Support ~60-65k USD, 1 Year

    What I got right: Started trying to automate everything using scripting and programming skills learned from personal study time. That's where everything changed. I completed well over 5x the work of my coworkers in this environment, immediately bringing me into the spotlight for higher-ups. Volunteered for a big job that was well out of my pay grade, immediately followed up with superiors about how this meant I deserved a promotion.

    What I did wrong: I was pretty patient and probably could've achieved the next promotion sooner by being more aggressive. It could also be argued that working a project well above my pay grade could've led to me being taken advantage of. I'm not sure if I would change that if I could do it over again, though. I learned a lot, and it ended up paying off.

    How I got lucky: Manager was great, company recognized talent and promoted from within. I could've gotten used, instead I got promoted. I also was placed in an environment that desperately needed automation, so my skills were perfectly timed.

    Midsize Company 1 - Systems Engineer ~100k USD, 1 Year

    What I got right: Didn't stop automating and learning. Grabbed projects and worked hard to become an expert at the systems I owned. Put myself in a cupcake situation by setting up working systems and thinking toward the future. Started working from home full time.

    What I did wrong: I wasn't a hawk for my own benefit. I was seeing stars from the 100k number, so I didn't realize that I was actually getting underpaid compared to others who did the same job. (Previous guy in my position was sitting on 125 with just as much experience)

    How I got lucky: Coworkers and company loved me. Never ended up on-call, never ended up getting trapped in office politics.

    Midsize Company 2 - Sr. Systems Engineer ~125-135k USD, 1 Year

    What I got right: Recognized my worth and started becoming a hawk for my own benefit. Started negotiating salary. Put up a working Github that highlighted my skills, updated LinkedIn with current resume and skills. Stayed working from home, despite slightly better offers from other companies who were in office.

    What I did wrong: Still kind of went the safe route, following a previous manager. He knew how much I made at Midsize Company 1, so he knew a 'reasonable' amount to pay me. This probably cut my potential pay by 5-10k.

    How I got lucky: Still no on-call, little stress, work from home, basically one of the easiest jobs I could imagine, while still being engaging and fairly enjoyable.

    Very Big Company 2 - Sr. Staff Collaboration Tools Engineer ~170k USD, 6 Months (current)

    What I got right: Kept my ears open and pushed recruiters for higher and higher pay. Leveraged 2 different recruiters against each other and my previous company to get a better situation. Demanded no on-call and the ability to work remotely.

    What I did wrong: May have taken the slightly worse job; the pay was comparable but the benefits were oversold for this job. Nothing major here, just nitpicking.

    How I got lucky: 2 recruiters came to me at the same time, allowing me to leverage them against each other. I was also already in a pretty good situation, meaning that I didn't have to leave.

    Honestly, most of this post could be written off as me getting lucky, but much of luck is what you make it. Yes, I was noticed when others might not have been noticed, but if I hadn't been killing it, getting noticed wouldn't have helped me at all.

    Hopefully this helps someone who feels stuck in a rut like I did a couple years in. A similar post helped me out when I was feeling stuck.

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    Does anxiety ever stop you from doing better than you can at your job?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 09:24 PM PDT

    I just got a job I really wanted and a mixture of social anxiety, insecurity, and imposter syndrome is really preventing me from asking questions about things I'm genuinely curious about and putting myself out there to take initiative.

    Granted, this is my first week and maybe it will get better with time, but does anyone know where I'm coming from? How do you deal with it?

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    Please help. I'm desperate. Really want to get into I.T

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 06:51 PM PDT

    Currently working for a dry cleaning company. It's a dead end job. I'm a route driver which means I pick up and deliver clothes to the customers. I have a wife and 2 amazing kids. I really can't support them at my current job. I regret not taking my education seriously in the past. People have told me I'm a natural when it comes to technology. Was the go to guy when I worked at CompUSA and have helped family and friends with their various computer questions.

    No college degree and no certifications at the moment. I'm willing to study hard for the certifications. Because the tests are expensive and I want this future. Willing to stay up late studying.

    I really really want to get into I.T. but don't know where to look and how to start. Would love for a company to give me a chance. Unfortunately I am desperate. Tired of working warehouse or production jobs. Also other entry level work.

    Thanks for any good feedback.

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    How valuable is an IT degree these days vs. say a non-related degree and a few certs?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 07:43 PM PDT

    When I was first getting into IT, IT degrees were kind of rare. Most people had degrees in various other things (or no degree) and then kind of stumbled into what was a rapidly emerging market.

    I see a lot of folks going for IT-specific degrees now, and I'm just curious if employers are finding those valuable. Not really sure what's good to recommend to people in modern times.

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    Interviews tomorrow, looking for advice as a rather new college student.

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 10:11 PM PDT

    Hi all! I am a student in my first semester pursuing an associates degree in IT, and have three interviews lined up after a rather successful job fair the other day. I have learned quite a bunch over the last several months, and am very excited to hopefully have my first IT job. The three positions I am interviewing for are all help desk/ entry level technician positions, and I could use any advice on the types of technical questions or otherwise they may throw my way tomorrow. I appreciate any and all help, thanks!!

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    Interview for part-time IT representative at a small community college

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 10:34 PM PDT

    I have an interview for what could be my first ever IT job tomorrow. Any idea what to expect for an entry level interview in this type of environment? I have no experience aside from coursework at my university. Im pursuing my Bachelors of Science in Information Technology. I do not have any certifications. I have plenty of experience with customer service. My fear is that they ask a bunch of technical questions and I wont know the answers to them. Any advice or insight would be welcomed. Thank you!

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    How many of you got into IT with no background in it?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 06:34 AM PDT

    The usual stories is that everyone is this field already started their career by the time their in high school by making a computer lab, taking apart computer, but I don't really hear any stories like "I was an English major then got interested in tech"

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    Best path to learn networking for beginner for zero to hero?

    Posted: 24 Mar 2022 01:56 AM PDT

    Does anybody know the best path to learn networking from zero?

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    Are there any subreddits for Google Certitifactions?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 07:53 PM PDT

    Pretty much that. I am looking for a subreddit dedicated to google certifications paths, studying, testing, etc. I am hoping for a community of others who are going for their certs where we can discuss concepts and help each other understand the trickier bits.

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    Great programmers who were slow learners and poor at math,what steps did you take to become good at coding even though you didn’t trust your brain?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 12:40 PM PDT

    So I'm 23 and been wanting to get into coding since 16 but I had a rough childhood growing without parents(divorced,mum got married and dad was always away for work so lived with my auntie)and this caught up with me as I grew older. I was good at academics before I joined high school. In high school,my dad forced me to take a subjects I was really not good at and I struggled with them and got poor grades in my final grade 12(A level). Dad forced me to repeat grade 12 twice just so I could get an A in physics yet I was good to join university but I had to listen to him since he threatened to abandon me if I didn't do as he says. So here I am,23 years old with a great deal of depression,can't get anything started because of the anxiety of applying for college in USA/Canada and without a guarantee of getting a visa. I can't stop thinking of what will happen if I study university in my shitty country. All my friends are soon graduating university. My best friends while growing up got into Stanford and Columbia university because of coding. One of them even got his first laptop from me while I'm here stranded and can't get anything done because of depression. I can't believe I studied one class for four years because of my dad's self interests(four years because school stopped for over a year due to Covid). I'm from a 3rd world country in EastAfrica and we couldn't have online studying so I had a dead year while repeating a class. I'm just tired of living like this and want to do something I have always wanted to do and that is programming. I don't see myself doing anything else apart from working with computers. I am a complete introvert so I don't mind spending the whole day on the computer. I'm kindly asking for a guidance on what path to take. How to be good at coding when you are a slow learner,the resources I can use,things to avoid etc. I just want to have a purpose and turn my life around while doing something I love and know will give me a high paying career. Any advice would be really life changing!!

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    Tips for dealing with heavy foreign accents during job interviews?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 08:22 AM PDT

    Let me preface by saying this is in no way intended to be a Eurocentric or discriminatory post, I respect the fact that English is not everyone's first language and this a personal obstacle that I need to overcome.

    I've been applying for jobs like crazy on Indeed and just had a call back from a company recruiting for my local government. The gentleman that interviewed me had a very thick Indian accent and I had a difficult time understanding him. I come from a small midwestern town in the USA, where the most exposure I've had to accents is the hispanic community that lives here.

    It really disrupted the flow of the interview for me, and often times there would be an awkward silence where I tried to process what was being asked of me. Or I'd often have to ask him to repeat what he said. My mind is already running overtime trying to comprehend the technical aspect of the question, but on top of that I'm trying to decipher the words.

    Obviously this is something that is bound to happen again and I'd like to take the personal steps to make it a better experience.

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    What is with companies advertising "Fully Remote" and then hiding the ball that it is not actually remote?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 04:33 PM PDT

    I recently have been interviewing for "fully remote" jobs and it seems like both the recruiters and the hiring managers try to hide that the role is not actually remote. For example, today I interviewed for a fully remote gig as an IT manager, and I asked "how do computers get sent out to end users." The response was basically that the end users dont want to wait for apps to download so you would need to drive to an office to deliver a laptop to them, or go to an office location... That does not sound remote. Also why is desktop support not doing then instead of an IT manager role...

    My current company pulled this as well when I got hired by saying it was fully remote and then once I started they wanted me to go into the office. Only issue is that I dont live anywhere near the office so I cant go in. Thankfully I was not fired, but the surprise from them was thatI need to now go to fedex locations to ship out laptops. Like what is this, is Jamf not a thing anymore? Why is it IT's job to be the shipping department and why would you advertise roles as remote when they are not??? No other IT roles in any other departments need to store equipment or ship shit out.

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    Is it worth it to make a drive for better pay? Need advice!

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 07:57 PM PDT

    I have the opportunity to get a job that pays almost 10k more…. Only downside: the drive is 1.5 hours away. They want me on-site every day, or at least 4 days a week. I could move up there but I just signed a lease for a year at my current home. Please give me your stories!

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    Trying to move to the next IT job - Looking for advice

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 07:45 PM PDT

    I am in a strange spot for myself. I have been in IT for the last 5 years with the same company, 10 years total with said company. I landed this job because I had experience with building computers and some programming knowledge and I have kept the company floating ever since.

    However, after 10 years (5 years in IT) and only making $21/hr, I want to move on. The issue is, I am a solo guy. I am the Systems Admin, Network Admin, Junior Dev, etc. If there is something that needs to be done, I am the guy. Something needs to be done and will take months? Let's see if JusticeMoose can do it in days with automation.

    Because I am solo, I am concerned I will not transfer well to other companies. The way I have learned has been mostly self taught. I have no one to check or call me out if what I am doing is wrong. I have found several things that are way against the industry norms... but that is just how the company is run. As cheap as possible and

    I have an interview very soon for a Sysadmin role. It's just the first interview so just the personality stuff. I can ace that portion. But the technical test is what I am worried about.

    In your opinion, what should I know at this point? I honestly do not know. I don't have any certs but they are interested enough on my resume to bring me in.

    My entire career has been nothing but imposter syndrome. I'm hoping to get out of my own personal hell.

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    Is Ancora Ed Corporate Training IT Support good for getting an entry level job?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 11:13 PM PDT

    I work at amazon and they offer a career choice program. I'm unable to do the degree option right now but I thought getting one of their IT certification through the pathway option would be a good idea. I only had two options for my city and I chose Ancora Corporate Training. I was curious if anyone else here has used it and if it will actually help to get an entry level job until I can work on my degree.

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    Salary negotiation as a tier 1 analyst at a help desk.

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 10:45 PM PDT

    I got hired as a tier 1 analyst at a help desk. 56kyr with an increase after I acquire compTIA sec+. My question is, how do I know i will get paid what I deserve after i get the cert? Whats the proper way to fight it iguess.

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    Is it too soon for me to quit my current Job? I have been only working here for 3 months

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 01:56 PM PDT

    I got a job at a small company as an IT Network Tech. This is my first experience in IT and after few months I've seen my supervisor complain or constantly groan on the phone when my team members call him for help after they did their best. I understand he's stressed out and busy at times.

    That is a turn off for me. I call him few times when I needed help. I do my best all the time, and one of my coworker told me I am self-sufficient. I don't like giving up right away but with my supervisor's attitude, I feel lack of support.

    I am studying for my Network+ cert and looking for another job because we also don't get paid that much. A lot of people are quitting. Is it too soon for me to Job hunt?

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    Should I get a Bachelors Degree if I want to work on IT? And if so , what bachelors degree ?

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 10:06 PM PDT

    I'm trying to figure out if a bachelors degree is needed / high recommended and what the major is actually called

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    Boss wants me to build a Teams bot for IT channel.

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 06:04 PM PDT

    I have experience with JavaScript, and vscode, so Id like to use a library to build it out. Anyone have tips? Im guessing its best to just read the docs and build one out. Anyone have experience with this?

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    I’m 20 years old, lost and trying to get into the I.T field

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 09:44 PM PDT

    not sure where to start , i'm 20 years old and work for a big retail store making $17 an hour. I got my first year of community college free so I decided to give it a shot, i chose Accounting just to try it out and ended up hating it, I have no choice but to finish out this year but was considering getting started in IT as i've always been good with computers . I don't have passion for much but I do enjoy building / dealing with computers. I'm not sure how to get started in IT and need some guidance. I'm 20 years old so I feel like I'm running out of time and should have a plan by now. Also, any resources that I can use to try out / get a feel for IT and see if it's for me would be great

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    Vincent Benjamin offered my first contract job and now the company is letting me go after two weeks of being with them due to lack of certs

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 03:42 PM PDT

    This is my first contract job that I've accepted through a Vincent Benjamin recruiter and they are letting me go on Week 2 because I don't have the certs or enough experience to stay…

    I'm at my lowest point in my career after leaving a full time job that is in my town that was paying me a few dollars less.

    I am now scrambling to get another job and my recruiter said that he will "look for jobs" for me.

    My experience in I.T isn't very much but I worked for Apple as a technician for 4 years and after I worked for a medical software company as a software analyst for 5 months until I quit that job and pursued this opportunity.

    I would love to have anyone's input on what to do next cause I am devastated that this happened to me and I would like to have some not to do tips as far as looking for my next job.

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    I am looking for some advice about online IT certifications

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 09:30 PM PDT

    I'm wanting to get into working in IT but not sure what online certs would be best. I have basic knowledge of PC components (I've built my own PC). I need some advice on some good online classes/certs I could take that also wouldn't be too expensive. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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    I think I may have shot myself in the foot with a salary question in an interview

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 02:02 PM PDT

    I recently started working with 3 different IT recruiters, and have 4 jobs I'm in the process of applying/interviewing for. The types of positions I'm applying for are very similar to the one I'm in now with basically the same skill set.

    For one of the jobs that I have preference toward, I received a call from HR at the company itself for an introductory call and when it came to what I was seeking with salary I went completely blank on what the recruiter had told me it was advertised at.

    Somehow I gave probably the worst response, I said "Well I understand that this is somewhat of a lateral move from where I'm at now but I wouldn't want to make less than what I am currently [$52k/year].

    I asked them how much the compensation for the job was (which should have been the first question), and they said they're "in a range" of $24-$27/hr depending on experience. .

    After the phone call, I went through the notes from the recruiter and they had actually told me it was $28/hr, which would be just over $58k/year.

    I have another interview this afternoon for a remote position paying $60k, but actually prefer the job mentioned above if I were able to get $28/hr.

    Is there a way to tactfully say that I thought it was $28/hr as per the recruiter, or mentioning I have an offer for $60k at another company, or am I now just at the mercy of their HR decision?

    I feel like the kid in A Christmas Story when he tells Santa said he wanted a football instead of a BB Gun

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    So are they being honest or stringing me along? Interview feedback

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 07:43 PM PDT

    I interviewed with this company but was told right away that I'm just not experienced enough. So today they call me to let me know that they arent saying no but they aren't saying yes. They said that they have a new guy starting next week and that if he is decently experienced enough, they will then offer me the position since they can focus on training me. However, if the new guy needs training then they will not hire me and they will hire someone with more experience.

    I took all of this as "so far, you're the only one to apply so we are going to wait and see if we can get somebody better in the next couple of weeks"

    They told me that they will let me know in a week or 2. Then they asked me if I was interviewing anywhere else and I let them know that I am with a few other places. So how should I take this? To be honest, I just don't like the vibe and how they're not giving me an answer. What is your take on this?

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    Need Career Advice from Application Security Engineer

    Posted: 23 Mar 2022 07:35 PM PDT

    I have an a SANS certification in Defending Web Applications. Started a job as an application security engineer almost a year ago. I am very disappointed with the job. I was hoping I would sit under a senior person and learn what to do. All I have been doing for the entire year is coordinating meetings. I felt I have not learned anything. Learned about 3 weeks ago, the company is going through another major change. I felt I was lied to about the position. I need advice on what to do? What is the next step? How much technical knowledge should I have? It seems I have been all over the place. I have a little bit of compliance, little bit of cyber security analyst, now moved into this position. Seems like I just can't get a job where I am sitting under someone to get really good on the job hands on training with technical tools. I would love some guidance from someone who is an Application Security Engineer.

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