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    Android Help Daily Superthread (Nov 10 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Android Help Daily Superthread (Nov 10 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!


    Daily Superthread (Nov 10 2021) - Your daily thread for questions, device recommendations and general discussions!

    Posted: 10 Nov 2021 04:00 AM PST

    Note 1. Check MoronicMondayAndroid, which serves as a repository for our retired weekly threads. Just pick any thread and Ctrl-F your way to wisdom!

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    Please post your questions here. Feel free to use this thread for general questions/discussion as well.

    The /r/Android wiki now has a list of recommended phones and covers most areas, the links have been added below. Any suggestions or changes are welcome. Please contact us if you would like to help maintain this section.

    Entry level (most affordable devices costing under $250 (US)/ $325 (Canada)/ €200 (Europe)/ £200/ ₹12,500 (India)

    Midrange section, covering the $250-500(US)/$300-700(Canada)/€200-500/£200-450/₹12,500-30,000 segment

    Flagship section, containing the most expensive devices with the highest end specifications

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    Saturday APPreciation (Nov 06 2021) - Your weekly app recommendation/request thread!

    Posted: 06 Nov 2021 05:00 AM PDT

    Note 1. Check out our apps wiki for previous threads and apps curated by the reddit Android community!

    Download the official /r/Android App Store based on our wiki!

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    This weekly Saturday thread is for:
    * App promotion,
    * App praise/sharing


    Rules:

    1) If you are a developer, you may promote your own app ONLY under the bolded, distinguished moderator comment. Users: if you think someone is trying to bypass this rule by promoting their app in the general thread, click the report button so we can take a look!

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    Pixel phones prompted to download Android 12 update again.

    Posted: 10 Nov 2021 10:42 AM PST

    iPhone 13 Pro vs. Pixel 6 Pro: what 2,000 photos tell us

    Posted: 10 Nov 2021 07:02 AM PST

    OnePlus Nord 2 x PAC-MAN Edition render - evleaks

    Posted: 10 Nov 2021 08:35 PM PST

    Moto G Power 2022 Official Renders Out; Here Are The Full Specifications

    Posted: 10 Nov 2021 09:21 AM PST

    Google Pixel 6 Pro Pros&Cons coming from Oneplus 7 Pro

    Posted: 10 Nov 2021 04:28 AM PST

    Pros

    The design is unique, and I like it. I have the Sorta Sunny variant, and fingerprints are not that visible, but I would've preferred a matte version or at least frosted glass on the back.
    Screen is better than the one on 7 Pro. Colours are more vivid, and I can feel the difference going from 90hz to 120Hz.

    Android 12 runs smooth. Had no performance issues so far.

    Cameras are very good. Post-processing is top-notch, less noise comparing to the 7 Pro even when taking zoomed-in photos.

    Battery life is one of the reasons I had to buy another phone, and it takes me through the whole day with no issues. I usually have between 40% and 60% when I arrive home after work.

    Front-facing speakers are very good. The sound is full, with enough bass and it doesn't distort at high volume.

    I use the phone mostly for work and had no issues with any work apps, and enrolling it to Intune was fine. Price was a surprise. Before launch I though the Pro variant will cost over £1000. It was less than that and I'm also waiting for the Bose headphones that came with the pre-order, which are ~£350.

    Cons

    I miss the full display experience of 7 Pro. I'm not a fan of camera holes. Both screens are curved and very similar on that aspect, but I'm not a fan of that either.

    The fingerprint scanner is slower, and you must apply the right pressure to have a successful scan.

    I used Android 10 before and beside the smoothness Android 12 brings to the table, there's not that many good things I can say about 12. Customization is lacking in several areas, including the launcher. I don't like that in order to disable Wi-Fi or 4G/5G I must tap 2-3 more times instead of one.
    Android 12 gestures are very hard for me to get used to, especially the back gesture. It messes with many apps that have some sort of menu popping when swiping right.
    Certain options are all over the place, like the battery information. You have the Battery section, then you have screen time in the Apps section and Digital Wellbeing section. What was wrong with the old way of showing battery info/stats?
    Bluetooth is unreliable. I either lose connection completely or the sound goes away on the left side. If I change the sound source, then it comes back. Hopefully this is a bug and can be fixed by a software update. Had 0 issues with the 7 Pro. I have the Sony WF-1000XM4 headphones.

    I don't play games so I can't comment on the performance or any overheating and throttling issues others experience.

    Overall, this is a good phone and I'm happy with my purchase.
    Android 12 experience can be improved, and I do hope Google can address many of these issues/concerns, and maybe fire/demote the people who came out with some of the design changes. Android is about full customization and ease of access. If on Android 10 I tap once to access something and on 12 I must tap 3 times to access the same thing, something's not right.

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    Nokia X100 is a $252 budget 5G phone with a 1080p display and 6GB RAM

    Posted: 10 Nov 2021 02:00 AM PST

    [MKBHD] The Best Camera in Any Phone... With a Catch!

    Posted: 09 Nov 2021 07:06 PM PST

    There and back again (with photos): iOS user tries Pixel 6 Pro - quick and dirty experience report

    Posted: 09 Nov 2021 07:13 AM PST

    Hi all!

    I thought I share my experience report. I have been using iOS devices ever since my second smartphone, an iPhone 4s, while my first smartphone was the Galaxy Nexus (Android 4).

    TL;DR: Good phone, many aspects of the smartphone experience are commoditised across both platforms, and enjoyable to use. Camera inconsistency, my personal preference for less processed photos, and my dislike for the UX paradigms of android with app instances and deep-links let me switch back to iOS though. 47 sample images below in full res.

    I wanted to switch back to Android, mainly because the stance of Apple on NeuralHash and their not-quite-honest approach to online advertising, where they just aim to capture advertising revenues themselves, while wearing the "privacy" mantle. Ironic, but I prefer Google's direction of moving towards cohorts, rather than individuals. Anyhow, that's a side note, there would be a lot to unpack, discuss trade-offs, but it's a different topic.

    Here are some observations that I didn't like:

    • I did not like the overall user experience of Android. In particular that apps could be loaded as several "instances" and launched from other apps, and how this often breaks the UI paradigms of using the "back" gesture to go to a higher level. What I mean: Say you open a deep-link from one app, like an email, to a different app, say a delivery or ride-hail or social media app, then this opens a duplicative instance of the second app. Within that you often can't navigate to the top level of that app, because the back gesture returns you to the first app. You need to go into the app drawer (or launcher) and open the app in its original instance to have access to the top level. This is very egregious and clunky at times. It is particular annoying when you have workflows that work across different apps. E.g. Email, to social media, to browser to pocket. Or camera to photo gallery to cloud storage to sharing via email or messenger. I am not necessarily a fan of iOS in general, but ironically I found cross-app workflows are solved in a much better way.
    • Also, the camera was most important to me.
      • Unfortunately the camera produces extremely mixed results, with some of the best photos I have seen from a smartphone, and some are subjectively so bad that it spoils it. The "bad" (subjective) come out as very over-produced. Extreme contrast in the fine details (often called "structure" in editing apps), extreme use of dynamic range increase / HDR processing that makes subjects look very over-processed against an HDR-flavour background that is all mid-tones with high detail contrast. The natural feeling is completely lost where there would be light and shadow areas within a picture. Subjects have clear "dark edges" outlines, where the imagine processing is transitioning from background to subject and amplifying the exposure of the dark areas. Compare these three images with quite random variation in over-processing: https://postimg.cc/PNTjnXB5 and https://postimg.cc/JyDFZgvg are both over-processed and taken moments after each other, but the second one is much worse. Similar shot bit later with different light: https://postimg.cc/5Q4dBgwC. And two subjects in front of a monument, which was much darker on location: https://postimg.cc/nsB6Ng2m
      • Camera is "unreliable", as in you don't know what you get. It turns out that when you zoom in 3.5 that this is a pure digital zoom sampling from the standard-lens. I would have expected this to be a sampled image between the 4x zoom lens and the 1x lens, where the mid area is taken from the 4x lens, and the edges are taken from the 1x lens. (Which is what the iphone is doing). But no, 3.5x zoom is considerable worse than 4x. See, e.g. these two pictures: https://postimg.cc/xJJ7279Y and https://postimg.cc/hhmwZHC1
        • Camera also struggled with fireworks, where the overproduction was mixed with not selecting appropriate shutter speed for the selected aperture and ISO, so that the photos were over-processed, but also often shaken. This is one of the better photos: https://postimg.cc/HJZDHX50 vs. the worse: https://postimg.cc/14gPmCv8
        • In many darker situations (indoor) the camera would default to night mode, and therefore would be quite slow, where one had to hold the phone still for a considerable time. this doesn't seem to be the behaviour I am used to from e.g. iPhone 12 Pro Max.
      • 47 Full res pictures here: https://postimg.cc/gallery/m43kp1j
      • I did like the on-screen controls for the camera, that let you adjust lights, shadows, and temperature, before you take a picture. That was great! If the result would only be less processed though.
    • UI and gesture glitches:

      • I found it irritating that the UI and gesture UX overall wasn't smooth at all. The phone had troubles differentiating if I want to switch to the previous app with the swipe-up gesture, or wanted to open the overview of all open apps, or wanted to go back to the home-screen. The different patterns are not distinct enough. Executing the app switching gesture is also quite slow therefore compared to iOS, where the phone just "gets it" much quicker if you want to switch to the previous app or have an overview of all open apps. Annoying
      • Overall the graphical glitches and sluggish scrolling experience on Android were still quite off-putting. When you would launch the camera with the double-power button, or when you would push down the notifications, or any other area where the UI would resize or overlay elements, it would be a bit erratic, slow, sluggish and sometimes would create actual UI glitches and apps would get stuck. Annoying too.

    Verdict:

    It's a good phone, to a big degree the phone experience is commoditised and there isn't much difference across the platforms. I did like the app experience better on iOS (e.g. Twitter, Reddit, browser), I do like the consistency of the camera better on iOS (albeit some Pixel shots are amazing), and overall interaction with the phone much better. I did end up returning my device. I'm a bit sad that Android didn't improve that much in some crucial areas of user experience in the eight OS updates since my Galaxy Nexus. Sight, maybe I will check out Android 20 again :)

    Thanks for reading my post, and if you have the phone, I hope you enjoy it.

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