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    IT Career Response to NetworkChuck's "If I had to start over... which IT path would I take?" live

    IT Career Response to NetworkChuck's "If I had to start over... which IT path would I take?" live


    Response to NetworkChuck's "If I had to start over... which IT path would I take?" live

    Posted: 22 Jun 2020 07:25 PM PDT

    First off I highly recommend everyone watch it. There is some great info and discussion in his live. You can find it here.

    I find myself smack dab in the middle of this topic. I am living this topic as we speak. I took the traditional route of getting my CompTIA A+ and getting an entry level helpdesk job at a Managed Service Provider in Dallas, Texas. Year later I moved to a larger MSP and started climbing the ladder within their company. I stayed there for four years before deciding to move into the cloud.

    I read all the articles about how cloud was the place to be. I did my research on the big three cloud providers. I decided to tackle AWS first because like Chuck did in his live I looked at the job boards and saw there were more AWS jobs. Two major things I didn't realize when I started.

    1. The majority of those articles are written by people who have certification content. They provide AWS and Azure certification courses, practice exams, etc. at cost. They basically say get a cloud cert and get a cloud job. That's just not how it is in reality. I have a couple cloud certifications. I have 5 years of traditional on-prem SMB experience centered around Windows. This isn't enough. There are crucial steps nobody talks about. I'll get to those steps later based on my experience and others who are making the change and who have made the change. This article in my opinion gives a way better representation of the cloud market. TLDR is that there are tons of cloud jobs and HR people are saying there aren't enough bodies to fill those jobs which is true. BUT we have a ton of AWS CSAA and AZ 103 certified people yelling they can't get responses to those jobs. So what is the disconnect. The answer is the tyranny of the S-curve. Read more about it in the article.
    2. I did exactly what Chuck did. I searched AWS and Azure and saw there were more AWS jobs in Dallas-Forth Worth. So I tackled the AWS Associate certifications. I then went to start applying. I was struggling to find jobs to apply to. I was having an even harder time getting responses back. What I noticed is that there were actually more Azure associate/entry level jobs in DFW than in AWS even though there were in aggregate more AWS jobs. The main jobs I was getting responses to were companies whose cloud footprint was Office 365 and a few VMs in the cloud. That's not what most of us are looking for.

    That being said here are a few other things I have realized after taking this journey.

    1. Location, location, location. This is huge. What is true in DFW or Atlanta may not be true in Virginia, North Carolina, California, Washington. The coastal states appear to be 2-3 years ahead of inland states in their tech stacks. Agile and DevOps is a bigger deal in the coasts and just now catching on in a lot of the inland states. Cloud stacks and third party tools are more common in the coastal states. That is the reason there are more associate level cloud jobs in say Raleigh, North Carolina compared to Dallas, Texas.The other big thing I noticed is that in inland areas the AWS CSAA is the key to getting a look at. In coastal states it appears to be normalized and you really need something like the AWS CSAP to get a look at. I think all this comes back to how the tech stack changes and the adoption rates in the US depending on location.
    2. If you research how to get a cloud job you'll see the articles written by course creators I spoke about above. Get a cloud cert and get a Cloud Support Engineer or Cloud Solutions Architect job. That's just not true. Here is what you'll really need. TLDR:
      1. At least 1 major cloud associate level certification (AWS, Azure, GCP)
      2. At least 1 hands on with Ansible, Puppet, Chef, Salt
      3. At least 1 hands on with Docker or Kubernetes
      4. At least one scripting language, perf Python, JavaScript, Go, or Java
      5. At least 1 Windows or Linux, perf both
      6. An understanding of DevOps and AgileThese are the bare minimum for "most" cloud jobs.If you want more information on how to land a cloud job we've compiled a huge FAQ resource with a huge section detailing the different job titles, what they do, how much you'll really make, how to write a CV for cloud, the best towns, better job board searches, thought leadership material, active communities, etc. I know there will be people who come on here and say I know someone who got three AWS associate level certs and got a cloud job without knowing any prior IT. Yes those people are out there like /u/lottacloudmoney and his post. This isn't the norm though.

    So all that being said I am not trying to discourage people from transitioning into the cloud. I am just trying to give people a perspective grounded in reality. So here is my advice.

    1. Join communities. Use these active communities to get a better idea of everything cloud. You can view a list of really good active communities on the FAQ. Ask them about my opinion. Ask them for their opinions. Get a lot of opinions and do a lot of research on every topic and make informed decisions.
    2. If you don't have an IT job get one. It doesn't matter what. It's better to have any experience than no experience while you skill up. Try and find a company that will pay for certification vouchers. One of NetworkChucks best pieces of advice is find a company that has a cloud department and get in on the helpdesk if that's where you can get in.
    3. Pick a cloud between AWS (40% of cloud workloads) and Azure(30% of cloud workloads) as your primary. The other will be your secondary cloud. Ignore all other clouds until you are in the cloud. Then if you want to explore GCP, IBM, Oracle, etc. go for it but stick to the main two. It doesn't matter which one you pick as your primary. My advice is look at your location and see which has more entry level jobs on LinkedIn Jobs and Indeed. Now start with the primary cloud and get the Associate level certifications. I will use AWS for my example.
      1. Study and pass the AWS CSAA. When you are ready to take the CSAA actually schedule the CP. Once you pass the CP use the 50% voucher to immediately schedule your CSAA. You will get both the CP and CSAA for only $25 more than just taking the CSAA.
      2. Now take and pass the AZ-900. This should be super easy as half the exam will be what you already learned getting the AWS CSAA. The half you have to learn are the actual services.
      3. Now take and pass either the Linux+ or RHCSA. If you know you want to work for large Linux enterprises do the RHCSA. If you aren't super crazy about just working only with Red Hat do the Linux+ as its easier and will give you a broader experience. At this point see if you can move out of the helpdesk and into a Linux Admin role. If you can't that's fine.
      4. Learn the basics of Python. Study and take the AWS SysOps and AWS DevOps Associate certifications.
      5. Go back to the job boards and look at the cloud positions you want and write down the third party tools they want experience with. Right now I would say it is Docker/Kubernetes, Ansible/Chef/Puppet/Salt, and Terraform. Pick one out of each category and with Python create some things in AWS. Like a static website. An infrastructure using Terraform. There are tons of resources on our FAQ to give you ideas to do and places to get hands on with these tech stacks.
      6. Start applying for Cloud jobs once you have a few items to show off. Also start working on the AWS CSA Professional.

    This entire process may take you a year to complete. It could take you two years to complete. Start working on it. Get on the grind. Keep up with trends, stay active in communities and you will get there.

    This is only really touching on the surface of a ton of topics that all kind of mesh together but I hope some of this information will help people. Cloud is amazing and you should 100% transition into cloud! Just realize it's not as easy as people like to make it sound.

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    Please learn from my mistake

    Posted: 22 Jun 2020 10:49 AM PDT

    I'm crying as I post this.

    I always wanted to pursue a career in IT networking since doing CCNA in highschool.

    I got my degree, started working as a network engineer of the largest IT companies in the country in 2013.

    Eventually the stress of being on-call became too much, it became pretty much another shift. I could not get any sleep.

    I tried to look for another networking job but there was nothjng at the time.

    So in 2015, I quit and changed careers to Quantity Surveing in Construction.

    And now I'm redundant.

    At the time I was entitled and mentally weak, I threw away my dream career because I was immature.

    Now I'm 29, with a mortgage to pay and without a job.

    Please, if you're thinking about leaving IT, don't rush it, really think it through, take a vacation if it helps, change your company/team.

    I feel horrible about my mistake. I feel like a failure and I constantly get panick attacks and I can't help but wallow in my own self pity.

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    Why don’t recruiters just get to the point?

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 08:09 AM PDT

    "I have an opportunity in $CITY for a growing company that focuses on Poweshell and Azure. Would you be interested in having a call?"

    Why not just tell me who the company is? What the job description is? What the salary range is? Why do you always want to connect over the phone without giving me some basic information?

    Is there a point I'm missing? Why not just cut the crap and get the point instead of playing games?

    /rant

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    Junior Infosec/Cybersecurity career path

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 08:32 AM PDT

    Hello all I have a question for people working in IT, especially information security/Cybersecurity/Networking

    I am 20, I graduated High school with doing A levels in IT, I have a comptia a+, network+ soon to have security + and pentest+.

    By the time I finish those two , I will have around 1 year experience in IT working as IT onsite support at a major financial company in London. I will have recommendations from my boss as well.

    I am looking to get into cybersecurity/ infosec/ networking and moving away from general support and I would like to ask you if you think these qualifications and work experience will allow me to get an entry level job? If not what else should I get? I would like to avoid getting bsc in computer science if possible.I looked at job boards but all the entry level jobs seem to require 3+ years of experience in that field and its kind of discouraging.

    Thank you for reading my post and I look forward to your replies.

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    Cert problems

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 08:09 AM PDT

    I'm looking to get certified for a sysadmin spot at my current job. They're currently on prem and working to roll out office 365 to all our users soon. There hasn't seemed to be much push to go to cloud that I've heard, but I'm low enough it doesn't all hit me.

    With the end of the mcsa cert track this month, and there not really being a good Microsoft server cert anymore, what is my best option?

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    Datacenter Careers

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 07:29 AM PDT

    I'm looking into becoming a Datacenter Technician, I prefer to work with hardware rather than software or customers.

    What career paths can I take assuming I land a position such as this?

    https://careers-milestonetech.icims.com/jobs/11453/data-center-technician-ic1/job

    Also what schooling would be focused around this sort of work? Most IT degrees I find are focused around Networking, Cyber Security or PC Support.

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    CISSP needing a change.

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 09:54 AM PDT

    /r/CISSP suggested I post over here and I included my other post at the bottom. Basically I've been in IT for 15 years from Tech support to Server Admin, to network admin, to manager of those roles + security. I got my CISSP last year and feeling very under respected and definitely underpaid. I was curious what types of jobs I should be looking for since I don't have any solid experience in security forensics. It looks like ISSO would be a candidate, but looking for other feedback.

    Also on the subject of job searching, I really want to leave middle-of-where New York. for a place with nicer weather, lower taxes, and better governing bodies. NC-Florida appeals as I do have family in SC. DFW area also appeals to me as I liked the area, and have a decent acquaintance there that offered to help me get situated. Personally I love the Desert like Phoenix and Vegas (shorter extreme hot), Any tips for job searching for IT jobs across the country? any other niche locations I may be forgetting?

    I'm currently in a metropolitan area of about 200k. I'm not a fan of huge cities, but don't mind being on the outskirts of one so long as commuting wouldn't be a bear.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/cissp/comments/gz34e6/looking_for_some_career_guidenance/

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    Thoughts on Apple Genius position?

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 09:08 AM PDT

    I'm a sophomore in college right now, and I had a job working for my school's IT department that I was unfortunately let go from due to budget cuts from COVID. There's an apple store near my house though, and they're looking for people to apply for the Apple Genius position. It seems similar to a regular IT job, and it pays pretty well. Do you all think it would be a good job to get for more experience?

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    should i skip A+ ?

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 08:13 AM PDT

    is it worth to do the A+ if i can get the cert in 2-3 weeks ? i know most of the content so im not sure if i should just skip it and go for the sec+

    im jobless atm so maybe its more worth to get the A+ ASAP so i can find something and then in a couple of months get the sec+

    my biggest concern would be that i get the A+ get a helpdesk job and 3-4 months after that i get my sec+ cert but i dont get compensated at my job for it (as in a small payment increase or a better position/more resposabilities) and then it takes 1+years for whoever hires me to notice my improvement and by that time (hopefully) i have 1-2 more certs on my belt

    edit: i know most of the A+ from self teaching how to build pc's and troubleshooting them

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    Is this enough knowledge to start applying for entry-level positions?

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 07:34 AM PDT

    Ok here is the deal. I am 26 years old, for the past 2 years, I was an owner of 6 websites (adult content), before that I worked in the retail sector. Long story short I needed money and sold 4 of my 6 websites. Now I have some passive income but it's not near enough to live by.

    I am done with the adult website hustle I need a career, something serious for the future. So I decided to focus mainly on networking(i find it most interesting and the salaries are usually pretty high for networking jobs in my area). Right now i am studying for CCNA, my goal is to have the cert by the end of September.

    The topics I am pretty confident in are :

    basic network devices(routers,switches,cables..etc)

    Cisco iOS ( just the basics, configuring interfaces, IP route tables, mac tables etc...)

    Subnetting (can do it in my head)

    OSI layer( can explain every layer in details)

    IPv4, IPv6

    protocols - arp,DHCP,icmp,tcp,udp... (just the basic ones) i don't know much about routing protocols like OSPF for example

    You get the picture, is this enough to start applying for some entry-level jobs ? If so should i go straight for the junior network positions or should i go for some help/service desk jobs?

    BONUS QUESTION: What should i put on my cv for the last two years? Website owner? Website developer ( i didn't develop anything i always used (prebuild themes/plugins). I don't know if i should even say the websites were adult content it doesn't sound serious in my head.Any tips in general for structuring my cv?

    Thanks!

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    Looking to start school for iT Career @ 35 Years Old

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 07:26 AM PDT

    I have a few questions:

    1. Am I too old? I have no formal IT skills, I will be starting fresh at a local community college or an online school. Any advice or recommendations there?

    2. Is there a beginners certificate I could get to jump start my career and begin working in IT (maybe part time) while still taking courses?

    3. I work for a branch of local government and would like to pursue a career in IT but remain in local government. My county has a large IT Department, so I may be able to "transfer" if an opening comes up and I have the qualifications. What would be the best area of IT to pursue?

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    Should I do Harvard University's cs50's computer science for business professionals?

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 07:06 AM PDT

    I'm a Management Information Systems (MIS) major. I was wondering if doing this particular course will be beneficial for me or not. I do plan on pursuing a data analytics career in the future. So will doing this course be worth it? Will it add any value to my resume?

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    Should I stay or should I go?

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 06:22 AM PDT

    So I currently work for an MSP and I love it. It's a small company and my boss is flexible, in at 9 am out at 4:30 pm Monday to Friday. The pay sucked though, so I looked elsewhere. Then I got an offer pay $20/hr working in-house for a software company, which is a significant pay increase. The new company however is twice as far, downtown, and I would be working from 8 am to 6 pm with an hour lunch. As far as I'm aware the work won't be too different, although I would probably get my hands on some new stuff I haven't messed with at the new job. I was set on leaving because of the significant pay increase, but my current job came back and offered me $38,500 salary. Now I'm at a crossroads. What would you do?

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    Automattic

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 06:22 AM PDT

    Anyone have experience working for Automattic? What's it like? I'm a cyber security student and have an interest in working for that company in the future (not for security but as a software engineer or something similar).

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    Amazon Interview Presentation

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 05:29 AM PDT

    Hi guys,

    Im doing a final interview at amazon for a network apprenticeship.

    For the interview I have to create a presentation, here is an extract from the email.

    Individual presentation: Please email me your 5-minute presentation. The theme of the presentation is: "As an IT Engineer how can you ensure I deliver excellent customer service."

    Im not sure what the question really means and if the presentation is purely text based, should I email back asking for more details?

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    Advice for a recent high school graduate with no job experience

    Posted: 22 Jun 2020 10:50 PM PDT

    I recently graduated high school and ideally I want to get a decent paying, flexible, IT job while doing college to become a quantum physicist. Specifically I want get a IT job working with the cloud with the associate AWS certifications. I don't plan on doing IT after college because I want to purse my ambition for Physics and Computer Science doing quantum physics, but during the 6-8 years I'm in college I want do IT so I can have financial security doing something I enjoy and links back to Computer Science. Currently I only have my CCNA RS certification and I'm working towards my AWS certifications. I have no IT or customer communication experience, and I don't know where is good place to start so I can work towards getting a job around the cloud. Obliviously I have to get my AWS certifications before I can get that specific job, but for what I've researched the AWS certifications are useless without proper experience in the IT field before applying. I was thinking about starting off doing help desk support for while, but I've read a couple threads on this Reddit not talking of highly of them to say the least. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on where to start in IT, advice for my scenario, or just point out anything wrong or stupid I said. Another question I have is it reasonable to think I get a cloud related IT job, like getting a AWS developer position, within 1-2 years after getting all three associate AWS certs.

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    If you are in a happy place, stop looking at job search sites!

    Posted: 22 Jun 2020 12:56 PM PDT

    Nearly burned myself in the past with this, if you are in a happy place with your work stop looking at other job ads!

    I was in a good place, although left after a couple of years there but initially, after the first year, I started looking daily non-stop at other jobs.

    Every other job seemed better than mine, every other company seemed better than mine, the benefits, their perfectly crafted job advertisements, it's all psychology!

    Pulled back in the last second, and dodged a bullet. The other company failed after 6 months. Also managed to get info from an ex-employee there and he told me that it's all on paper with the benefits and pay, but after they managed to get you on their side it's all downhill from there.

    We, as people forget what we have at hand until we lose it and burn ourselves. Learn to be grateful for what you have, be tactical, and ease of on the search for the perfect job. This is not a race this is a marathon.


    Of course, you should always be aware of other opportunities, this is IT after all. Everything changes so rapidly, but still, be calm and don't always think that the grass is greener on the other side. It's greener where you water it.

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    Salary bump - Moving up internally

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 03:01 AM PDT

    It's generally agreed upon that the best way to increase your salary is to switch jobs/move companies.

    What about if you're moving within the company? For example, I'm making about 20k LESS than the avg rate listed on Glassdoor for the position I've applied for. It's in a different pay grade but people have been laughing at me because they said no way in hell they'll bump me up that much in pay despite it being the avg.

    Is this true and if so, can I use the Glassdoor salary rate as a reference or is that a big no-no?

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    Should i take advantage of free associates degree at community college or do wGU?

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 02:50 AM PDT

    I am 29. I can go to school for a certificate or an associate's degree for free in my state. I currently make 13-15 an hour and I'm trying to raise my income to 45k asap because ive got 50k saved and would like a condo (and a family lol) so i was wondering what y'all thought A. Will increase my income to 45-50k faster, and B. Would be worth my time and money. If the cloud computing degree really does only take me 18 months if i go hard and focus on it 8 to 16 hours a day, maybe it'd be worth the 15k... on the other hand, if i can increase my income to mid 40s with a FREE networking or IT certificate and some comptia or Cisco certifications, that might make more sense. I just don't know if that'd be reasonable to believe. I don't trust the certificates no degree model. I've worked on obtaining competencies like my CDL and forklift certification and I've taken management classes and done html/css bootcamps and ive never made above 35-40k. Lost my CDL to accidents. Can't even find a job that pays above 15 an hour for my $3k forklift certification. I'm very weary that a certificate or even an associate's degree will eat up time i could be spending dating my future wife and baby's mother at 30yo lol. What should i do?

    I'm ready to just devote everything to something complicated so that I'm valuable but... idk how to get there without throwing away time & money.

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    Tone def CEO strongly encourages staff to return to office despite ongoing pandemic.

    Posted: 22 Jun 2020 03:59 PM PDT

    I work for a large MSP in NYC. Our ops staff received an email late Friday from the CEO/HR/legal counsel stating that we were expected back at the office on Monday as lockdown restrictions were being lifted.

    This generated a lot of panic among us all, because despite the company's' No Work From Home' policy, the metrics indicate that productivity has gone up over the 3 month lockdown. It's also important to note that all our support is done remotely at the office to a global clientele, so technically speaking, we're not physically needed at the office building.

    On a conference call today with HR/senior management, around 70 engineers took turns ripping them about how asinine and dangerous it was to expect us back in the office where social distancing is impossible, the lack of PPE, not to mention the long commutes and potential exposure to the virus.

    They had no answers for our concerns, except 'We're willing to accommodate you on a case by case basis'. This obviously didn't sit well with us. Morale is already extremely low due to the waves of layoffs that have decimated entire departments in multiple cities since the start of the year.

    Support for some clients who do not require US based engineers has already been shipped out to our teams in India, so the general consensus of the staff today was 'You're already laying people off, increasing the workload without increasing the compensation, and now you want us to get on crowded NYC transit and come into the office because you really don't care about our health?!'.

    HR's mentioned that they'll take our concerns to the CEO, but I'm not holding my breath. If I was 20 something and single I guess I wouldn't care, but with a family in tow my stakes are a lot higher. And the job markets not exactly booming right now, so I guess I just have to keep my fingers crossed.

    Anyone else in a similar situation?

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    CCNP security or CCNP Enterprise

    Posted: 22 Jun 2020 04:36 PM PDT

    Guys, I know the question is been asked many times from different people but my situation kinda different. I'm a Network Engineer and I have CCNA in RnS and Security+ . I have an interest in security more than RnS and I'm about to start working on CCNP but not sure which one. Some people advised me to get CCNP Enterprise first then Security but I think this gonna be a long path and hard work, so I want to go directly to security. I really wanna hear a different Idea from you guys.

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    What are the best online IT certifications you can get?

    Posted: 22 Jun 2020 08:09 PM PDT

    Was looking into taking some side courses for certs as a hobby and was wondering if folks have any recommendations? I'm currently going through the Google IT one on CourseEra and it's just starting off.

    Any other recommendations?

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    Need advice for a student to become a business analyst

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 01:12 AM PDT

    Hi, I'm currently a uni student majoring in business information systems management. I've decided that I want to become a business analyst. However, I don't have any experience besides my ongoing degree. I'm asking for advice on what should I do to start my career in this field. All responses are appreciated

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    The President has issued an Executive Order limiting h1b visas, what's your opinion on this?

    Posted: 23 Jun 2020 01:03 AM PDT

    I know some companies use these visas for nefarious purposes. What do you think?

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