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    Simple Questions - May 31, 2019


    Simple Questions - May 31, 2019

    Posted: 31 May 2019 05:16 AM PDT

    This thread is for simple questions that don't warrant their own thread (although we strongly suggest checking the sidebar and the wiki before posting!). Please don't post involved questions that are better suited to a [Build Help], [Build Ready] or [Build Complete] post. Examples of questions:

    • Is this RAM compatible with my motherboard?
    • I'm thinking of getting a GTX 1070. Which one should I get?
    • I'm on a very tight budget and I'm looking for a case < $50

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    new i7-8700k came out of the box with thermal paste residue on it

    Posted: 31 May 2019 03:21 PM PDT

    Just picked up some new parts from my local Microcenter. The i7-8700k I bought has immediately noticeable thermal paste residue on it. I mean, I noticed this instantly while I was laying in bed in a low-lit room.

    Has anyone experienced this? Microcenter keeps their CPU in different location than the box they advertise with. So the box was not sealed. But I did in fact pay for a new CPU, though.

    Here is a picture. https://i.imgur.com/0jfSdxv.jpg

    EDIT UPDATE: The CPU was returned easily. The employees were nice and helpful and I now have a NEW UNOPENED i7-8700k. The did confirm the unit I received was used but did not elaborate on how it ended up in my bag. No worries. All resolved.

    The gift card issue on the other hand is a bit complex. On my first visit we were shuffled to multiple registers to get the card "working" when in reality 2 of the 3 cards I had were "used" on the first register..... Long story short. We will be communicating with the General Manager to resolve this issue because the in store workers don't have the authority or tools required to sort this out. They understand and acknowledge the issue and are wanting to help resolve anyway they can.

    I think I was incredibly unlucky with my visit today. Trips in the past have yielded good parts and prices.

    **Final note: I made this thread because I was unsure about the CPU shipping with thermal paste on it. Hopefully, with the attention this thread got, people will now be able to google a similar issue and have a good thread with reasonable responses. Thank you all who meaningfully contributed.

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    No output from new GTX 1660, please help

    Posted: 31 May 2019 01:00 AM PDT

    UPDATE: Problem seems fixed, i explain it at the end of the post!

    I'll try to summarise what is going on right now, but i myself am completely out of ideas of what could be wrong.

    I've been gaming on an am3+ socket system for like 5 years now, using an amd 8320 CPU and GTX 760 2gb GPU.

    Since my GPU was running kind of hot lately and the 2gb VRAM didn't quite hold up anymore i decided to upgrade to a GIGABYTE GTX 1660 6GB OC that i got in the mail, brand new, on wednesday.

    I deleted my old drivers, put it in my system and to my surprise i did't get any output to my monitor via HDMI.

    The fans were spinning just fine, there was just no signal.

    After some research i found out that the chipset in my motherboard, amd 760GA, was not compatible with modern gpu's. It seemed that the amd 970 chipset was compatible with modern gpu's while still having an am3+ chipset.

    So i ordered a new motherboard, an ASRock 970M Pro3 and it arrived this morning.

    Once i had everything ready for a dry run i saw the same result: All fans were spinning just fine, but i still had no output signal going to my monitor.

    I tried using my old GTX 760 again and it works just fine, it posts and shows me the mobo's boot menu. All using the same HDMI cable and 1080p monitor.

    In the bios it sais that uefi is enabled and i've tried all other bootup modes, and all give the same result: the 760 works fine, the 1660 gives no output signal.

    So now that ive tried everything i can think of i really hope someone here can help me. The motherboard should be compatible with the GPU, the pcie slots both work fine with my old 760, the fans on my new 1660 spin fine once power up the system but it won' give me any signal output to my monitor.

    TL;DR: Brand new gtx 1660 6gb gives no output signal with brand new, compatible, am3+ 970 chipset mobo, while old gtx 760 gives output and gets me in the boot menu whitout any problems. Tried all bootup modes and pcie slots but results stay the same. The fans spin, but no signal output to my monitor from the 1660.

    UPDATE: So angrily i still put the system together after the failed dry run, since i not only bought a new mobo buy also a new case and ssd to have a clean system and tried to run it again, but it didn't work. Then i noticed that i forgot that i was using an hdmi to bga adapter because my monitor didn't natively support hdmi. I didn't think it would do anything but i tried connecting my pc to my TV wich did support hdmi and turned it on: it worked. I don't know why or how, but the adapter seems to be the wrongdoer here. I am now installing all drivers amd everything, i'll check back with the monitor later. For now everything seems to work.

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    [build complete] Here to ruin my life with WoW all over again!

    Posted: 31 May 2019 11:55 AM PDT

    Hey everybody. Just a couple weeks ago I decided to build my own computer. After a LOT of research, some advice from u/Veness and friends, I got it right on the first try and everything is rockin' and rollin'!

    Pic: https://imgur.com/gallery/gxX3pCr

    I haven't gotten around to messing with the RBGs yet, but that will come in time. I have my OS, drivers, Microsoft office, etc downloaded, and I did a benchmark on userbenchmark.com. Any advice on other things I ought to do?

    The prices on the parts have jumped around quite a bit since I got them, but here they are so you at least have an idea what's in there. I needed all new peripherals which drove my cost up quite a bit, but they all should last for quite a while!

    Parts List:

    [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZqx8Y)

    Type|Item|Price

    :----|:----|:----

    **CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6mm323/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-36ghz-6-core-processor-yd260xbcafbox) | $179.99 @ Amazon

    **Motherboard** | [MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hy97YJ/msi-b450-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk) | $109.89 @ OutletPC

    **Memory** | [Team - T-Force Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zK7v6h/team-t-force-vulcan-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlgd416g3200hc16cdc01) | $80.98 @ Newegg

    **Storage** | [Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6yKcCJ/samsung-860-evo-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-mz-76e500bam) | $77.99 @ Amazon

    **Storage** | [Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) | $59.89 @ OutletPC

    **Video Card** | [EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xg66Mp/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-6-gb-xc-ultra-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-2167-kr) | $379.99 @ B&H

    **Case** | [NZXT - H500i ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RTjJ7P/nzxt-h500i-blackblue-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h500w-bl) | $114.98 @ NZXT

    **Power Supply** | [EVGA - SuperNOVA G1+ 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wfVD4D/evga-supernova-g1-850w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-120-gp-0850-x1) | $99.89 @ OutletPC

    **Monitor** | [Dell - S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MXQG3C/dell-s2719dgf-270-2560x1440-155-hz-monitor-s2719dgf) | $299.99 @ Amazon

    **Monitor** | [Dell - D2719HGF 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/thQG3C/dell-d2719hgf-270-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-d2719hgf) | $179.99 @ Amazon

    **Keyboard** | [Razer - BlackWidow Elite Wired Gaming Keyboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bB3H99/razer-blackwidow-elite-wired-gaming-keyboard-rz03-02620200-r3u1) | $148.00 @ Amazon

    **Mouse** | [Razer - Naga Trinity Wired Optical Mouse](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9wc48d/razer-naga-trinity-wired-optical-mouse-rz01-02410100-r3u1) | $76.99 @ Amazon

    **Custom** | [Razer Firefly Chroma Custom Lighting Hard Gaming Mouse Pad](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bTYWGX/razer-firefly-chroma-custom-lighting-hard-gaming-mouse-pad) | $49.81 @ Amazon

    | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |

    | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1918.38

    | Mail-in rebates | -$60.00

    | **Total** | **$1858.38**

    | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2019-05-31 14:57 EDT-0400 |

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    Old vs New PWM Fan connectors on Prebuilt HP LGA1155 board

    Posted: 31 May 2019 03:19 PM PDT

    I bought a refurbished HP 8300 with an Ivy Bridge i5 for my family to use, and after adding an SSD and unplugging the DVD drive, the system fan/CPU fan (one in the same on this PC) was still pretty noisy so I bought a Noctua fan to replace it.

    But when I took out the old fan and tried to put the Noctua in... it wouldn't fit (Old fan to the left). Looking at the old fan it seems to be rated for 12V 0.40A while the Noctua is 12V 0.08A. And the wires are the same colors in the same order on each fan.

    Would the new fan still work? How would I even find a new fan with this type of plug?

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    Hey you read this plz

    Posted: 31 May 2019 10:28 AM PDT

    Which has the best price/performance ratio? The RTX 2060, 2070, 2080, or 2080 Ti?

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    Gaming Mice upgrade recommendations

    Posted: 31 May 2019 02:33 AM PDT

    Hello.

    I would like some advice on what is a good gaming mouse.

    So far is was on a Deathadder for 5 years which was replaced with a Deathadder Chroma that lasted about 2.5 and now i'm on a Red Dragon centrophorus (which when googling for the spelling I see is some sort of fish family, which makes sense as all their other stuff has scary creature names and this mouse I think is the cheapest thing they sell.)

    The Red Dragon mouse was filler and now that I have savings i've been looking at the Logitech g502 and Steelseries Rival 600. I know very little about these two brands. I'm also thinking of replacing Logitech keyboard with a Steel series m750. Some Logitech g series mechanical keyboard.

    Very open to other brands. If there is non-gaming branded stuff that works just as well please let me know.

    EDIT: Thanks for all the useful suggestions everybody. Really didn't expect to get this many answers and with such detail. Awesome sub this. Learnt a lot about what's out there and prioritising what I want in a mouse. Have great weekends.

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    Will the new Ryzen 3000 series need a bios update to work on B450?

    Posted: 31 May 2019 11:50 AM PDT

    My friend bought a Asus Strix B450-F and he doesn't have an AMD CPU, but he is getting the 3000. Will he need to do a bios update to make the PC work?

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    Just upgraded to Ryzen 2600 from i5 4690

    Posted: 31 May 2019 05:16 PM PDT

    What do you recommend? I've heard that formatting the C drive is recommended, what do you suggest?

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    Is i5-9600k overpriced?

    Posted: 30 May 2019 11:41 PM PDT

    Hi guys, i'm about to do my first build and noticed the i5-9600k is about $100 more than the i5-9400.. is 9600k worth the price then?

    And/or are there other cpus (like ryzen) that are better for the same price, that you can recommend?

    Rig is intended for some casual gaming, though it has to support Dragon Age: Inquisition on ultra for my wife's mods to be on ^

    My build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/byRJhy

    Thanks in advance :-)

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    Nvme SSD not detected

    Posted: 31 May 2019 03:26 PM PDT

    Hey everyone! I just built a new computer and it's the first time I try a m.2 ssd. The problem is that the SSD is no where to be found in the BIOS and in Windows (both installer and the OS). It actually showed once in the Windows installer and I was able to start the installation, however when the computer rebooted during the process I never was able to see it again.

    I tried a lot of troubleshooting steps such as clearing the CMOS, using the second m.2 socket, removing PCIe cards (except the graphics card), several BIOS options (CSM, safeboot, etc.) I also had no other drives (except the flash drive for the Windows installer) or SATA devices connected when attempting to make it work.

    My motherboard is an Asus prime x470 pro and my SSD is a Crucial P1 1tb.

    Do you have any troubleshooting steps I could try? Otherwise, could the SSD be faulty?

    Thanks in advance for your help!! :)

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    Motherboards.. what's the difference?

    Posted: 31 May 2019 07:03 AM PDT

    I was watching a video where someone was showing some of the new ROG motherboards and he said "it has all the features gamers look for."

    What features would gamers look for on a motherboard as opposed to others??? Thanks!

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    Need help to check if this motherboard can handle a combination of this GPU, RAM and wireless adapter. Please help

    Posted: 31 May 2019 02:31 AM PDT

    I already have a pc but I want to switch out my mother board for a smaller one and keep all of the components the same.

    Posted: 31 May 2019 07:13 PM PDT

    I just want to switch my motherboard to a smaller one for a small form factor console killer build I'm doing but I am unsure about what will happen if I remove the cpu, gpu, ram, storage- ect and put it all on a new motherboard. I especially worried about the cpu.

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    First PC build

    Posted: 31 May 2019 07:12 PM PDT

    Hi all, this is my current build of the PC I am making for gaming in 4K and 60fps. I am stuck on RGB which is why the build is about $200 more than it should be. Otherwise, let me know what could be better, please be brutally honest

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zvntMZ

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    Small FPS drops causing stutter

    Posted: 31 May 2019 04:48 PM PDT

    Hi guys english is not my native language i hope i can explain my problem

    My system is
    Dell Alienware aw2518h [ Gsync ] 240hz
    RTX 2070 msi
    Ryzen 2700x
    HDD 1Tb
    SSD 500gb Samsung
    SSD M.2 250gb Samsung evo
    X470 Gaming plus mobo
    16 Gigs Ram 3200mhz Gskill
    700w +80 bronz FSP
    logitech g402 mouse
    logitech g710+ keyboard
    logitech g633 headset

    So my problem is some games feel really not smooth its like they stutter even with high fps
    for example Rainbow Six Siege and overwatch works really well even if my fps drops there are no sign of stutter/freeze or lag like that

    but in other games like Mordhau (avg. 100fps ), Leauge of Legend(avg 150fps), Killing Floor 2 (avg. 150fps)
    in these games even if my fps drops like from 160 to 150 or something like that i can feel how it stutters
    What could my problem?

    ım using Gsync + Vsync on (in Nvidia control panel/off in games) + RTSS 237 fps limit

    What i Tried

    Pre-rendered frames set to 1
    Reformat/fresh install windows 10
    Re-seat Ram
    Re-seat Video Card
    Roll Back Drivers
    Fresh install gpu drivers with DDU
    Updated Bios
    Updated all drivers
    Re-seat CPU
    Fixed all Registry errors using CCLEANER
    checked temps gpu and cpu they max 70c

    What can i do to fix this problem

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    SSD and HDD

    Posted: 31 May 2019 04:47 PM PDT

    How would I install both a SSD and a HDD, I would like Windows and everything for the boot up to be on the SSD for maximum and everything in the Downloads folder to be on the HDD. How would I do this?

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    For people that bought used graphics cards, how was your experience? I'm looking at a GTX 1080ti

    Posted: 31 May 2019 06:59 PM PDT

    It's ridiculous how new or like new cards are going for $1-1.3k when used are going for $450-600. I'm wondering if maybe a lot of people have had a good experience or bad experience. Can anyone that has upgraded from a worse card to a used 1080ti can chime in?

    I'm building my first pc and going for the best graphics card for blender, gaming and code, so I figure its the 1080 ti. I see a lot of cards like EVGA with over a year warranty left being sold for $500. Is it too good to be true

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    Finished my first build :)

    Posted: 31 May 2019 06:29 PM PDT

    Imgur Gallery

    Parts List

    I was always interested in building a PC, but in 2017-2018, GPU prices were way too expensive. Now, everything is much more affordable, and I decided to switch to PC because I couldn't play Fortnite competitively on a console anymore.

    I got to say, I'm extremely happy with my build. Everything worked first try, and the build took about 8 hours, but I spent months researching parts. I plan on grabbing a Ryzen 3600 later in the summer, but I'm really happy with the 1600's performance, especially when OC'd to 3.9ghz at 1.3V. The easiest parts of building were the CPU, Ram, GPU, and installing the motherboard to the case. What took me the longest was the PSU, it was very hard to screw it into the case, but I ended up getting it to go after a bit. I was also nervous because I wasn't sure which way the cables went into the psu, but thanks to the buildapc Discord they told me that the "type 4" end goes into the PSU. The SSD was a pain in the *** to install aswell because the SATA cable wasn't straight, but it all worked out.

    The best part of this build though, has to be playing at 144hz. It's amazing. When I cap my framerate to 60fps, it looks like a slideshow now. I also wasted a lot of time on dumb stuff like not screwing something hard enough the first time because I was scared or not finding the case screws.

    I overspent on some parts, but I wanted upgradibility too. Shoutout to Micro Center for the CPU and Mobo deals as well as the GPU sale.

    If you are considering building a PC, do it! If a 16 year old can, so can you. Its super fun, and while not as easy as some people make it out to be, it is pretty easy once you get into the flow of things. Also, don't be scared. I even dropped the screwdriver on my mobo a couple times and wore socks and no antistatic wristband and everything worked fine.

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    Regarding UPS and SSU

    Posted: 31 May 2019 06:24 PM PDT

    Hi guys. I'm doing a 20 PC setup, with each pc in need of around 350w and 650w Gold PSU. I wanted to protect them against any possible surge, but I have no idea how many SSU or UPS per PC I would need to do this. What considerations should I take? Should I start with SSU and then go to UPS? I know that there are different types of UPS and, according to this site, I would only be interested in Standby or Line-interactive. Any insight would be very appreciated. Budget for this would be around 2k USD max.

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    RAM help

    Posted: 31 May 2019 04:10 PM PDT

    I currently have 16gbs of DDR4 3000mhz Corsair RGB ram (2x8) and I was wondering if I could put my extra two sticks of

    PNY Anarchy DDR4 2133mhz (max oc of 2800mhz) in my remaining to slots if I slowed/speed them all down/up to 2400mhz. Is this beneficial or will it make a difference and more importantly.. is it possible?

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    Thermal Compound with CPU or GPU?

    Posted: 31 May 2019 04:09 PM PDT

    If I am not using an aftermarket for the CPU or GPU cooler, do I still need thermal compound?

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    Ryzen 5 2600x with RX 570 vs Ryzen 5 2600 with RX 580

    Posted: 31 May 2019 06:14 PM PDT

    Which build will be better for gaming?

    This would be my first build and both are basically the same price.

    One has a stronger cpu with weaker gpu and vice versa.

    I am looking for an opinion on which build is better overall for gaming.

    Thank you!

    Build list included:

    2600 RX 580

    2600x RX 570

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    PC for Data Analysis and VR Porn

    Posted: 31 May 2019 06:09 PM PDT

    Build Help/Ready:

    Have you read the sidebar and rules? (Please do)

    yes

    What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.

    Mostly data processing and statistical analysis using R. I'll be dealing with upwards of 200 billion data points. (~2 TB)

    If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings)

    I will do some gaming as well, so this PC has to be VR ready.

    What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?

    Less than $2,000 to start, but leave room to expand later.

    In what country are you purchasing your parts?

    USA. There's a Micro Center 6 miles from my house.

    Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please). Consider formatting your parts list. Don't ask to be spoonfed a build (read the rules!).

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $399.99 @ B&H
    CPU Cooler Corsair - H100i RGB PLATINUM SE 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $149.99 @ Amazon
    Motherboard Asus - ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $282.26 @ Amazon
    Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $163.98 @ Newegg
    Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $163.98 @ Newegg
    Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $147.99 @ Amazon
    Storage Western Digital - Red 10 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $279.99 @ Amazon
    Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card $498.98 @ Newegg
    Case Corsair - 750D ATX Full Tower Case $119.99 @ Newegg
    Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ Amazon
    Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $139.89 @ OutletPC
    Sound Card Creative Labs - Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 kHz Sound Card $56.89 @ OutletPC
    Monitor Acer - ED7 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor $499.99 @ B&H
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total (before mail-in rebates) $3058.91
    Mail-in rebates -$45.00
    Total $3013.91
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-31 21:03 EDT-0400

    Provide any additional details you wish below.

    I don't have time to stay up-to-date with hardware advances, so this build probably isn't too good. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Thanks.

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