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    Simple Questions - May 21, 2021

    Simple Questions - May 21, 2021


    Simple Questions - May 21, 2021

    Posted: 21 May 2021 05:00 AM PDT

    This thread is for simple questions that don't warrant their own thread (although we strongly suggest checking the sidebar and the wiki before posting!). Please don't post involved questions that are better suited to a [Build Help], [Build Ready] or [Build Complete] post.
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    I finished my pc build now on to monitors

    Posted: 21 May 2021 02:16 AM PDT

    So I have done quite a bit of research but couldn't figure out if my pc is capable of dual monitors. I have a gtx 670 and I believe a intel core i7 3770k with 32 gb of ram. Please help. Thank you for your help. 😀

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    Lazboy computer chair - please avoid

    Posted: 21 May 2021 02:41 PM PDT

    In 2015 I bought a Lazboy Big&Tall computer chair from Staples, and for the past four months have been dealing with the manufacturer to replace their faulty hardware under warranty. Come Feb 2021, the chair seat plate failed which apparently is a common issue with these chairs. The weight limit specified is 400 lbs but I only weigh 215 just for clarity. According to the warranty this component is covered so I initiated the warranty procedure with the manufacturer (not lazboy, but True Innovations) who then say a replacement will be delivered within 8 weeks. 12 weeks later I received the wrong replacement and will have to wait another "8 weeks" for the correct part to be delivered...

    This is only a single issue I've had with the chair. The faux leather peeled away within a year of ownership. The bolts that mount the elbow pads to the armrests are lined up perfectly with where your elbow sits, and the gas lift cylinder failed a while ago as well. The only feature I absolutely love about the chair is the reclining and locking feature.

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    Best pc chair for cats?

    Posted: 21 May 2021 04:41 AM PDT

    I've been looking for a new computer chair for a while, around the $250 budget mark.

    Unlike most people, I don't want to keep my cat off of it. He really likes sitting on the back while I work or game and I don't want to take that away from him.

    Thanks in advance!

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    My CPU fan acting kinda sus + weird noises

    Posted: 21 May 2021 04:52 AM PDT

    Any ideas what's up with it? PC is like 5 years old already, upgraded only gpu not so long time ago. Kicking case doesn't seem to help anymore:) It's Intel Core i7-6700K + Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo btw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xjwb_zXINw

    Edit: Cleaned my PC up a bit but still same. I think soon ill just upgrade my cpu to 5600x along side with new cooler and motherboard. Ty for the help (btw noticed it happens like 50% of the time, sometimes it spins nicely)

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    Is nvidia introducing this hashrate limiter actually gonna make it any easier to get a 3060ti or is it all just marketing waffle

    Posted: 21 May 2021 12:34 PM PDT

    5800X Cooler Recommendations

    Posted: 21 May 2021 06:02 AM PDT

    I am building a pc with Ryzen 7 5800X and 3600MHz CL17 RAM in a Corsair iCUE 4000X case with 3 front, 2 top and 1 back fans, case fans being on silent profile. I will run it at stock speeds apart from 3600MHz RAM clocks since technically it is an overclock to my knowledge. I've read a lot about 5800X being a toasty chip. Thinking of buying Be Quiet Dark Rock 4 unless I hit 90 deg C while working with blender or rendering video with it.

    Would it be fine or should I just get DRP4 or something similar instead?

    DRP4 and similar bulky coolers just look less appealing to me, would go with AIO like H100i Elite just for aesthetics but more points of failure and people report it being loud.

    Thanks in advance.

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    What is the difference between these four pairs of RAM?

    Posted: 21 May 2021 05:56 AM PDT

    https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/xn848d,khmFf7,2RNgXL,cc6qqs/

    Besides the fact that two say "SL" (with a slightly different look) they look identical for spec information and all four have different prices.

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    How to upgrade a Fiber router? Fiber Router suggestions please

    Posted: 21 May 2021 03:34 AM PDT

    I've recently built my own system and I am planning to also upgrade my home network. I am currently using the stock router my ISP has given me and it is on a fiber optic connection. Can I just easily swap out third party routers? What routers do I need to consider?

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    Need help with my airflow

    Posted: 21 May 2021 06:50 AM PDT

    Hello there,

    I'd like to optimize my airflow and instead of taking a guess i'd like some more experienced user to get the best configuration possible.

    (picture below) I have two 120mm fans in the front; 2 same at the top; and one last at the bottom. I also have a cooler fan. All vertical fans draw air from the front of the case and pushing towards the back. The last 2 (on top) draws air outside to the top.

    I should add I'll probably get 140mm fans soon to replace all except the bottom and cooler one .

    One thing I'm considering is turning the top-front fan so i get more air and it's push towards the bottom of my case. Would that be good ?

    Picture of my build: https://postimg.cc/k66VrFgm

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    Odd issue: PC suddenly only working when one RAM stick is in place, no matter the slots.

    Posted: 21 May 2021 01:51 PM PDT

    Motherboard: Aorus X570 Ultra 2 Sticks of 8Gb RAM

    This morning everything worked well, then when I started my PC this noon, the displays stayed black.

    What I have tried so far:

    • Restarting my PC
    • Making sure all connections inside the PC are solid
    • Unplugging all USB devices etc. before booting it up
    • Cleaning the RAM
    • Updating the BIOS
    • Clearing the CMOS
    • BIOS settings to factory default (no xmp)

    When I have either of the two RAM sticks in slot 3 OR 4 the pc will boot. With a stick in slot 1 it will never boot. With two sticks in it won't boot either. No matter if I have them in 1 and 3, 2 and 4 or 3 and 4 despite all the other except 1 working.

    So both sticks of RAM work alone (except in slot 1), but never together. They used to work together before for over a year. I have re-enabled XMP two weeks ago. Both sticks of RAM are on the QVL.

    I did not install anything at all lately, nor did I drop my PC or anything like it. All parts are 1-2 years old.

    I'd highly appreciate any help.

    Thank you in advance!

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    Ready to pull my hair out.

    Posted: 21 May 2021 03:18 PM PDT

    Title.

    I've had such a ball ache with this build its making me even consider trying to fix it and just getting rid of it.

    Specs:

    AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

    AMD 5700XT

    Corsair 8GB x4 @ 32GB 3600mhz

    RoG Strix B550-F Gaming

    Bios version 1004 x64.

    All was working fine a few days ago now I can't even run CoD:BOCW without my PC hard restarting itself, the same thing happens on Halo MCC, wait in a lobby for a few seconds and boom a restart. Checked my temps, all fine, checked my RAM seating, nothing changes, checked the BIOS, all working fine, the CPU Temp, absolutely everything you name it I've tried it. Even factory defaults and a new version of windows on my M.2 SSD.

    (World of Warcraft and SWTOR Works fine, typically.)

    video

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    Lost two PSUs in a week...what should I be checking?

    Posted: 21 May 2021 12:21 PM PDT

    Hi! I'm struggling to figure out where I should start on tracking down this problem. Last week my PC would not turn on, I tested the power supply (1yr old seasonic prime) and it was dead. I thought it might be a fluke and started the RMA process with seasonic. Didn't want to be without my computer for that long so I purchased another prime and dropped that in, it worked for two days then I had my PC crash during startup and was not able to turn it on. Tested that pay as well and it's also dead.

    My first thought was to put in a claim through tripp-lite since I'm using their ups/surge protector.

    Is there anything else I should be looking at and testing to try to get to the root of this problem?

    I appreciate any and all help.

    Thank you!

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    Do I get a 32GB RAM kit to go with my current 16GB kit for 48GB capacity? Or do I bite the bullet and go for a 64GB kit?

    Posted: 21 May 2021 08:54 AM PDT

    Situation: Cities Skylines with custom content is using more than 16GB of memory, and that is on an empty map. I had implement workarounds, such as manually setting 32GB of page file on a secondary SSD so other programs such as Firefox doesn't crash from out-of-memory conditions, and extensively pruning the amount of custom content (I got rid of a large number of props/trees so I could have more buildings). From what I've read, some players stated that their 32GB RAM kits were not sufficient for the game and thus also had to set large page files.

    I used Thaiphoon Burner to extract details about the ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 (2x8GB) DDR4 3200 CL16 kit that I have: https://i.imgur.com/nfHd8ZU.jpg

    According to TB, my kit uses single-rank, but I could not find any other information to confirm that. ADATA's website and their Amazon sales page doesn't mention about the dual vs single rank information.

    I'm using an Asrock B450m Pro4 motherboard. While I couldn't find any information about it using Daisy Chain or T-Topology, but since the user manual states that there is a large speed drop on two of the slots (I think the memory speed is dropped from 2666 MHz max to 2133 MHz max), I'm assuming using four sticks of RAM will make it harder to overclock the RAM.

    Speaking of RAM overclocking, I'm using a 14nm Ryzen 1600 so four sticks of RAM will be a problem for Daisy Chain memory tracing. But on the flip side, 48GB of RAM even at something like 2400 MHz is going to be faster than 16GB 3200 MHz RAM + 24GB SSD page file.

    I'm a bit hesitant on going straight for 64GB RAM because of its cost, especially with this year where everything is expensive.

    I do plan on upgrading the CPU when I get Cities Skylines 2 (rumored to launch later this year or sometime in 2022).

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    PCIe or SATA?

    Posted: 21 May 2021 06:27 AM PDT

    Hi guys. I have no experience in pc upgrading and need your advice. I want to install SSD and have read tons of information about it. I've seen on some forums that it's better to buy NVMe SSD and install it with a PCIe adapter card than to install a SATA SSD. They say it will boost performance (correct me if I'm wrong, please). The question is whether I need it. I'm an ordinary pc user, not a gamer or designer. Will I feel the difference at all?

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    Big air coolers and transporting the pc

    Posted: 21 May 2021 04:18 AM PDT

    I am getting a pc that i will move by car fairly often. It will have a 5900x and i was thinking of getting a dark rock pro 4 as the cooler. My only concern is whether it can get damaged during transport since that cooler is quite heavy. I can easily remove the gpu but id need to reapply thermal paste every time i remove the cpu cooler and i dont want to do that up to twice a week.

    Is it in any danger of getting damaged? Should i get a smaller cooler and if yes which one? I dont want to get an aio. Any other advice on how to move it safely?

    Thanks in advance

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    3600 vs 5600X for 1070 Ti

    Posted: 21 May 2021 11:38 AM PDT

    Hi r/buildapc, my incredibly lopsided build (Ryzen 5 1500X on an A320 motherboard paired with a 1070Ti) is finally annoying me enough that I'm planning an upgrade. The rest of the build is staying put for now not least of which because of the current market condition (1070Ti, dual channel 16GB 3200MHz, 256GB M.2 Nvme + 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 60Hz monitor).
    If the 1070Ti is gonna stay for another year or so (or until god knows when the GPU market settles down), would a 3600 be enough (I'm unlikely to upgrade the A320 mb if getting a 3600, I know A320 is the crappiest chipset there is but since this is sort of interim I don't want to spend too much)?
    Once the GPU market finally returns to a point that's reasonable for me to upgrade, I'm eyeing 3080 or RX 6800XT level performance which means 3600 isn't gonna quite cut it. But at that point there might be a new Ryzen gen that's not on AM4 anymore.
    In summary: given a 1070Ti with a potential upgrade to a 3080 or equivalent at a 1 to 2 year time horizon, is it more logical for me to upgrade to a 3600 in the interim (keeping my current A320 motherboard), and potentially doing a much bigger system upgrade (motherboard, RAM, CPU, GPU, high refresh rate monitor, maybe even PCIe 4 storage) once the market settles down a bit in a few years; or should I go with a 5600X plus a B450 motherboard now to future-proof for the GPU upgrade? (My non-gaming CPU-heavy workload mostly involves running virtual box VMs, usually not any more than 1 or 2 at a time. Gen 1 Ryzen's virtualization performance leaves much to be desired...)

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    First PC was working. Tried installing new GPU, PC stopped working - fans are spinning but no boot. Installed old GPU. PC Still not working - fans spinning but no boot.

    Posted: 21 May 2021 12:21 PM PDT

    Troubleshooting Help:

    What is your parts list? Consider formatting your parts list. PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $499.99 @ Best Buy
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler $109.95 @ Amazon
    Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard $205.88 @ Amazon
    Memory Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $107.99 @ Newegg
    Storage Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $104.99 @ Amazon
    Storage Seagate Barracuda 500 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $23.99 @ Amazon
    Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card -
    Case Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case $74.99 @ Newegg
    Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $124.99 @ Amazon
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total (before mail-in rebates) $1272.77
    Mail-in rebates -$20.00
    Total $1252.77
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-21 15:16 EDT-0400

    Describe your problem. List any error messages and symptoms. Be descriptive.

    The build in PC part picker is my old/current build. And it was totally stable. I had some overclocks on the RAM, but other than that it was stock.

    I went to install a new GPU (MSI RTX 3060 Trio) and after it was seated and I powered it on, all fans were spinning on full and RGB lighting was on default rainbow. The PC wouldn't respond to the power button and the only way it can be turned off is via the PSU switch.

    When the computer is turned on, all fans spin on full. There's no output, there's no booting.

    List anything you've done in attempt to diagnose or fix the problem.

    • CMOS battery reset.

    • Reseated RAM.

    • Reseated GPU.

    • Uninstalled RTX 3060 and replace it with 1060.

    • Replaced the other PCIe cable with the other one that came with the PSU.

    • Reseated all cables.

    • Booted up with single ram stick in slots 2 and 4.

    • Booted up with no USBs attached.

    • Booted up with no GPU in there for 10 seconds, shut it down, reinstalled GPU.

    • Checked the CPU for bent pins and reseated it. Pins are fine.

    Provide any additional details you wish below.

    The stock orange LED for the motherboard doesn't come on either.

    I use a KVM switch and any peripherals, via the KVM switch or directly plugged into the computer, does not register whilst the computer is on.

    EDIT:

    Based on all of this information and everything I've tried, all of my components work except the motherboard. All components (CPU, fans, RAM, GPU etc) are all drawing. The PSU is also sending the power because it is getting requested to and all fans are spinning. The problem is it looks like the mobo is dead and is not regulating the power to the components, hence, why all fans are pulling at 100%.

    Thank you all for your help!

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    Will the b550 aorus pro ac work with 5600x and 3070?

    Posted: 21 May 2021 12:20 PM PDT

    At first I thought that it did but then I read something confusing that made me doubt myself. Google won't give me a straight answer so I thought Reddit might help. Thanks.

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    What motherboards come pre updated for 5600x?

    Posted: 21 May 2021 03:50 PM PDT

    What motherboards come pre updated for 5600x? I'm very smooth brain and cant get my head around flashing the BIOS and how to get it updated without a CPU.

    I plan to make a build soon with MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard and the 5600x.

    Thank you

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    Connecting a NIC to my x570, am I reading this document correctly that the 3rd PCIE slot, the lanes are directly connected to the chipset, and won't reduce my GPU to x8?

    Posted: 21 May 2021 03:47 PM PDT

    I have a 5900x in an asus dark hero viii x570.

    I'm trying to figure out if adding a 10GB NIC (which is Pcie 3.0 x8), to my 3rd slot will reduce my GPU (3090) from x16 to x8 but the manual isn't clear at all: https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-viii-dark-hero-model/helpdesk

    I was also trying to figure out suing this spreadsheet:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit?usp=drivesdk

    It seems to confirm what I think is true, the first 2 Pcie slots share the x16 lanes. So connecting a card to 2nd Pcie slot will nerf my 3090 to x8.

    However, it seems to show that 3rd Pcie slot is directly connected to the chipset, so that won't share lanes with the 3090?

    Am I reading this correctly?

    I know x8 vs x16 is like 2% difference, but every % helps.

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    PC won’t turn on at all after RAM upgrade

    Posted: 21 May 2021 03:43 PM PDT

    Today I bought a second 2X8 RAM kit for my PC as I had two open RAM slots. So now I tried to run with 4 8gb sticks of the exact same model of RAM. I get the two new ones into the system, try to turn on and nothing happens. I unplug the new sticks and try to run with just the original 2X8 kit (which I did nothing with for the upgrade, they are still seated in the same slots I had them in) and still nothing happens. I tried resetting my CMOS, I tried pushing in every major connection I could think of, I tried blowing dust out of the previously unused RAM slots, nothing worked to get the system running at all. It doesn't even attempt to boot when I press the power button. I really need this computer to turn on, does anyone have any idea what I did?

    Also, in case it's relevant, I did install a new 4TB hard drive at the same time and in the process accidentally bent some pins for a connection labeled SYS_FAN2, but it didn't look too bad and it's sitting straight now.

    RAM: Ripjaws DDR4-3600 4X8GB MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Pro Wi-Fi

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    GPU help (SMOKE!)

    Posted: 21 May 2021 03:36 PM PDT

    Hey guys, I have a GeForce 1080 FE, so yesterday it was unplugged all day and when I reconnected everything, everything turned on fine, then I plug in the hdmi into the card and smoke started coming out of it and a strong burn smell as well. I unplugged everything ASAP and when I tried again only the lights turn on. Tried another GPU I have and it worked fine. Any idea of what happened? I just want to know if I can get it repaired or something or am I totally screwed :/ thanks for any help.

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    Monitor help

    Posted: 21 May 2021 12:43 PM PDT

    I've been looking for a monitor for quite some time and would appreciate some help. Currently I am looking for (preferably) an ultra wide with 144hz refresh rate, 1ms, 1440p, good color reproduction (So VA or IPS panel) all black color scheme, and low motion blur and hopefully for less than $600. There are a few other things but Ive forgotten them. The one I'm looking at now is the gigabyte 34 inch but I was also looking at the Asus TUF one and the Samsung one, but both the gigabyte and Samsung have worrying reviews. Can anyone recommend a monitor or someone who owns one of the previously mentioned give their opinion on the matter?

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    Transcending the Console (Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the PC)

    Posted: 21 May 2021 01:53 AM PDT

    Hello all,

    As the title implies (not so clearly), I'm looking to get into PC gaming. The problem is...a lot of information has been thrown my way, and I'm not terribly well-versed in hardware. However, I've saved up some money and am looking to get into the hobby. So, I have a few questions:

    1) The PC market seems really troubled right now. Should I wait to buy into this?

    2) Is it cheaper to build a PC or buy one?

    3) What parts do I positively need? I don't need her to be pretty; I just need her to run well.

    4) I'm looking to do a desktop. What specific parts can you recommend for a budget of around 1000 USD (if you think I should build a PC)?

    5) Bonus: Can you recommend any cases that look like old PC towers? I have a real soft spot for late 90s/early 00s computers, as that's when I first experienced them. I might even use our family's old mechanical keyboard (if it still works).

    Thanks so much in advance. I know that helping out noobs isn't easy, so I appreciate your time and patience.

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