IT Career Why so many jobs want 5+ years of experience and pay like $20 an hour?? |
- Why so many jobs want 5+ years of experience and pay like $20 an hour??
- Should I continue with my IT Career?
- Is this new job the right move for my career? (internal to msp)
- Is this role worth it?
- Network & Cloud experience. What's next?
- Network Admin retired along with the position
- Need help choosing an IT field
- How do I get into cybersecurity?
- Entry level Help Desk intern interview questions?
- Help me
- Need help on deciding my next move
- CISSP requires 5 years experience beforehand. Whats the roadmap leading up to this then?
- Not sure about which field to pursue
- What Networking Career Path?
- 2nd Opinion on Resume
- How to get into penetration testing?
- Is something wrong with me?
- Little to no IT jobs in my county
- I have no formal training, but I need to improve my knowledge of home network security quickly to make money to survive.
- Most IT positions in my area are contract via recruiters, who my company also work with. How do I proceed?
- The day I was accepted into school I found out my department at work is shutting down.
- trying to get out of the military
- Should I be worried?
- Applying for a senior position with a different department. Should I inform current manager?
| Why so many jobs want 5+ years of experience and pay like $20 an hour?? Posted: 11 Dec 2019 04:17 PM PST I just graduated College with my BS in IT and I did a 4 month internship. I keep getting told I should expect minimum 40K a year for my first job, but I'm seeing a lot of companies wanting to pay less then 50K for senior position. I'm also seeing a lot of jobs wanting to pay 12-15 an hour for a B.S. and like 1 year experience. This is my experience after looking for jobs in Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, Atlanta and few other cities. I'm looking at one right know wanting 5 years experience for $18-$20 an hour. Then I see a job right next wanting to pay like $16 with at least 1 year IT corporate experience being a requirement. It is discouraging. I see a lot of jobs wanting to pay like 15 or 16 and hour for what I have... I went over to r/personalfinance and asked about how living off or 15-16 is like in Charlotte or Raleigh-Durham area. I got a lot of people telling me I'm selling myself short. But when I get on indeed or even talked to a recruiter I'm hearing $15 or $16 not this 40K-50K year salary I keep getting told I should expect. Am I missing something? What are good entry level jobs? I'm mainly looking at Help desk / desktop support type roles Edit: here is my concern. There isnt much work nearby, relocating is key for me to find good work. I'd say moving to a different city for a 15 an hour job is not ideal. I guess if I could rough it out for a year and then get a raise or get another job that pays more then it could be worth it. $15 is not great, definitely for a 4 year degree in a field that has high demand. I may not be prepared for the higher wage jobs and need the experience tbh. I'm just aware of how little $15 really is and how tight financially it would make me... [link] [comments]  |
| Should I continue with my IT Career? Posted: 12 Dec 2019 06:58 AM PST I've been fired from most of my IT jobs and I think it's a combination of both working for crappy companies and my lack of skills/not meeting their expectations. I managed to find one stable job for five years, despite graduating with a degree in information systems in 2012 and working in IT ever since. Here's a little history: 2012- Graduated college with no real IT network or certifications. It took me a year to find any job in IT. I only found out about IT certs in 2017, but held off on taking them b/c I hate tests and had no real idea on which ones to take. 2012-2013- Took various IT gigs that didn't go anywhere. One was PHP internship, one was a shipping/receiving clerk which was also an IT assistant. 2013- took IT assistant role at small furniture company where the manager gave me a shot to modernize their systems and update their computers/website. Once I did that and offered larger projects to streamline their infrastructure they backed off and replaced me with a cousin 9 months later. 2014- Took job at a small startup in Boston where I was QA and technical projects analyst. They hired me for a three month contract and decided not to renew it. 2014-2019- Got a job at a toxic non-profit that always cut corners because they had no money and didn't care at all about technology. I was able to do what I wanted for the most part as long as issues were resolved and computers were updated. In those 5 years I (thought I) learned a lot and automated everything and got vendors to take care of the rest, by 2016 I promoted myself to sysadmin but I was getting bored so I tried applying for other jobs to no avail. 2019- took a job at an MSP, yes I heard the horror stories, but figured it wasn't all that bad and that I could make it work. I figured I could restart my career here. I was hired as a level II technician, but they never saw me as a level II and never really gave me a chance to prove myself. They didn't want me to "learn on the job," and I was fired in two months. Is this track normal or am I in the wrong field? Now, I'm in a bind. I have two potential job offers incoming. One for best buy and the other for a non-profit that has money. My self confidence has been pretty much shattered in the past two years. Though the CEO of the MSP did say I know my stuff, and said that I need to apply to in-house positions. So the non-profit seems perfect and pays great ($80K), however, the non-profit while it pays great commute would be killer 2 hrs and $600 a month just to get there and my self confidence has me doubting I could even do the job. Best Buy would pay way less (like $15 hr), be a 10 min commute have more potential for career advancements/promotions and I could possibly jump into other non-technical careers depending on what I like. [link] [comments]  |
| Is this new job the right move for my career? (internal to msp) Posted: 12 Dec 2019 09:10 AM PST I've been at my current internal role for coming up on 7 years, I started as desktop support but have grown into more of a jr sysadmin role with some day to day user support still required. I currently make 52K and have not had a performance review in a year and a half due to an archaic chain of command with no formal review policy in place. I really like the small team that I work with but in the past year have found myself starting to feel unfulfilled in my day to day, at this point I'm very familiar with our environment, so not much feels like a challenge other than new implementations or migrations. I don't mind going to work but am starting to get to the point where I require growth that cannot really be offered to me here. I'm 29 years old, for reference. I put out a few feelers, went on a few interviews and was offered a position as a systems engineer for a smaller local msp (50 or so total employees). This position starts at 67k, with 1.5x pay for nights and weekends, new benefits package is slightly weaker than my current mostly due to the 401k company match vesting schedule and it has a similar commute to my current. Responsibilities are looking like server design, configuration and implementations, with day to days of exchange migrations, active directory upgrades along with level 2/3 support for windows server environments, which I like the sound of. I accepted this offer and I was absolutely thrilled to put my 2 weeks in at my current gig until I made the mistake of researching what working for an msp is like on reddit. It seems that most have almost nothing good to say about it other than a it's very quick deep dive in a broad range of technologies that you wouldn't get elsewhere. I'm sure like anything else, there are good and bad msps to work for. I'm going to move forward with the new position but I am curious of second opinions on this move. What do you all think? Is this a step in the right direction for my career? [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 12 Dec 2019 10:07 AM PST I'm currently a Network Coordinator who is doing nonstop imaging and deployment of workstations rather than networking. I'm also only making $16/hr in a semi high COL area, kentucky, but I just got offered an interview for a contract job as a Junior Network Consulting Engineer for Cisco Systems on a big project they're doing. The pay rate for the staffing company is $18.15/hr which sucks but it is 100% remote. I currently have my 4 year B.S. in Network Security, my CCNA Security and my CCNA R&S but I'm also studying for the AWS Solutions Architect Associate certification as well. I really would like to get into more pure networking and ultimately make into the $65-$75k annually range. My current job isn't giving me that but this role may do that, but it still seems very low. As for my work experience I have done the following: 3 months - internship for my county government doing PFSense troubleshooting and desktop support. Unpaid 8 months- as a remote system engineer for an MSP two hours away from my home. That drive killed me and i had some medical things force me to change jobs so I could save money for a house. ~$17/hr after shift differential. 6 months - network coordinator for local hospital doing installs instead of networking. $16/hr with no raise potential or training assistance for new certs. This would be an indefinite contract for Cisco Systems for a major project they have going on in the Charlotte area, but it would be 100% remote at the rate of $18.15/hr. [link] [comments]  |
| Network & Cloud experience. What's next? Posted: 12 Dec 2019 08:58 AM PST Hi all, First thing, just to clear out - not looking at stuff like salaries or conditions at all. I am a qualified network/software engineer (combined B.Sc in both areas), with 4 years of experience in networking (mostly with datacenter, SDN, automation & NetOps, Linux networking, and build our own big data monitoring solution). During that period and a few years later I also functioned as an architect for the organization's cloud environments (Azure, OpenStack, VMware - working on services like object storage, GPU & data science, security aspects). Our organization really helped me evolve quickly and after ~5 years I am the senior architect and am in charge (or could be involved in) most of the technological aspects of any project in our department (cloud & IT). I really enjoyed the work as an architect (in the CTO office of my organization) - I had the chance to interact a lot with customers and help them build systems (sort of a solution architect, except that I could cherry-pick interesting customers), I could do my own R&D on Linux networking and how to accelerate our infrastructure with the hottest buzzwords (XDP, DPDK, test many CNI plugins), I could help programming teams with dev cycles, and had a blast of a time building that monitoring solution (daily ingest of data at about 10TB plus processing and storing that is a tough challenge). Before I list my questions, let me just say that I am rather tired of the traditional networking (I've had my fair share of architectures and designing them, applying some automation and working with vendor equipment to configure fabrics etc.), and I'm looking to work on either new stuff (like challenges in K8S world, some new technologies like VNF) or find some architect-like job which will allow me to work with a very wide range of technologies and projects. My issue is that with my experience, since from what I've seen usually outside my organization people with 4 years of experience don't get architect jobs and get to the core of the CTO office. so -
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| Network Admin retired along with the position Posted: 12 Dec 2019 08:27 AM PST Looking for advice in my situation. I was hired back in April as an IT Support Specialist for my local city. Team was an IT manager, network admin, and now me. So a small team in a small city. The network admin was very bad at their job and finally retired. My boss and I talked about it before hand and led me to believe I would be moved into this role and they would re-hire my position. Well network admin left and now it turns out they're giving me a $2k raise (once fully approved..) and hiring another person with my title. My boss basically said they didn't wanna go through the hassle of title change for me because "it's a lot of work and titles don't really matter, as long as work gets done that's all I care about." This pretty much told me they just don't wanna pay me for it. Now the network admin title is a stretch and I suggested sys admin because that's basically what I'm doing now along with all the help desk stuff. I've done a decent amount trying to get this place up to better standards but it still requires so much more work. Passwords can be anything and generally are still the default easily guessed default for everyone or it's just written on a sticky note on the monitor. Local Admins everywhere. Multiple Domain Admin accounts in the wild for certain people. Sharing of accounts. Old no longer employed employee accounts/emails still active for when "they need them." A couple Win XP/server 2003 machines still chugging along. The list goes on and on. The problem is everyone fights you on any change and my boss doesn't care to push these things. I got WSUS implemented and I've gotten several emails saying to take certain machines out because it's inconveniencing the user for (monthly) restarts. It just all feels pointless. I've been hitting the Win 7 to Win 10 upgrades hard and finally convinced my boss to order SSD's for machines. Kept saying they were not as reliable and not worth the money. I feel like I'm beating my head against a brick wall most days. To say I'm disappointed is an understatement. I enjoy fixing things but I can only do so much (3 years in IT now). I've only been here for about 8 months and torn between sticking it out longer for at least a year here (or more) or just go ahead and start looking for another job. The pay is decent for where I'm at. $48k in a LCOL area. I'm 5 minutes from the office now. Was 45 minutes one way from previous IT job. Benefits are good. There's also not a lot of IT opportunities unless I'm willing to drive 30-45 mins to the nearest bigger towns. My boss is actually past the age of retirement but still continues to work for now. Another options is I could wait for him to leave and hope I got his spot. Just lost on what to do and have no one to discuss this with. [link] [comments]  |
| Need help choosing an IT field Posted: 12 Dec 2019 07:31 AM PST Using a throwaway account. I have the opportunity to choose an IT field to earn an associate's degree online. The choices that interest me are: Cyber Security, Data Science, Information Systems (which earns a Google IT Support Certificate), and Professional Office Management. A little background about my current job. There is zero room for advancement in my department and it is filled with typical "we've always done it that way" people who love their good old boy system of favoritism. I hate just getting ready for work at this point, and I end up breaking down crying weekly at work. I've applied to other departments but all the postings require at least a bachelor's degree. I have no formal education other than a handful of college classes and no IT work experience. For the last year, I've been learning Python and data science through Codecademy and Coursera and have two more courses to complete on Coursera to earn an IBM Data Science Professional Certificate. I love data science so far, but I've seen a lot of posts about people having issues entering the field without a master's degree or higher. Honestly I think I would enjoy any IT field listed. Do you guys have any advice? Would these programs be worth it? Would one be better than the others? [link] [comments]  |
| How do I get into cybersecurity? Posted: 11 Dec 2019 05:26 PM PST What is the proper route/path to get into cyber security, specifically penetration testing? I have my network+ and security+ and currently work in a help desk tier 1 position. [link] [comments]  |
| Entry level Help Desk intern interview questions? Posted: 12 Dec 2019 08:53 AM PST I have general experience in the IT field. Mainly from troubleshooting networks at home, fixing routers connectivity, etc. I have an associates degree in Math. Basically my knowledge is broad, but not specific within the industry itself. I feel like I'd be a great candidate and have excellent customer service skills. The internship is paid and potentially a full time position if I do well after getting hired. What should I know going into this interview? I feel confident nailing all the personal questions, just unsure what to expect technical wise. Any suggestions? Thanks! (I plan on studying for my A+ and CCNA certs) [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 12 Dec 2019 08:37 AM PST Hello guys please help me to figure out things. I am 20 right now. I am confused which way to go. I am currently doing IT computing. I love coding alot. I love solving problems. Also I have passion for animation, so learned myself. I am really good at it. I know Python and Java. I am like in middle, not so good , not bad. I have also started learning unity so that I can create games too, with my 3d graphics skill. The country I am from has a pretty good market for everything. Look I want to make softwares, I want to make games, I want to learn AI, I want to create 3d graphics, but don't know the process. I mean what should I choose between Java and Python and get amazing. What is the process to get amazing? How can I give some time now, so that I can get pro in AI in some years. I read in one of quora answer Python is the way to go for AI, ok but can I also create apps, softwares with it? Please guide me in details. [link] [comments]  |
| Need help on deciding my next move Posted: 12 Dec 2019 08:17 AM PST Hey guys I'll try to keep this short and to the point. I am 35 and not getting younger lol.. I am married with 3 kids.. I work for the city and decided I wanted to go for a career in IT. I spoke with the IT department here about how to get an entry level position and they told me getting my A+ would be a good start. I got my A+ in June of this year and the plan was to wait for a position in the IT department to open up. But nothing has and it's been about a year since I first talked to them and 6 months since I got my A+.. in a perfect world I would stay with the city and work on my IT degree (they would reimburse me for tuition) and hopefully transfer in the IT department when a help desk position opens up.. but I'm getting impatient and who knows how long it'll be before an opening comes. So should I stay with the city in hopes of an opening or get out there and get a job in the field thru a staffing agency and just start getting experience. I have talked to Teksystems and there are jobs out there with my A+ I can get. I live right outside Dallas so there are tons of IT jobs out there. I do have a couple dwi's and a weed charge on my record in the past ten years so that will affect what jobs I can get. No charges in the last 5 years. All are misdemeanors and NOT felonies. Any and all advice is welcomed and appreciated. TL;DR: I'm 35 and married with kids.. stay at current job with the city and wait for an opening in IT Dept (no idea when opening will come) and start bachelor degree in IT (tuition reimbursement) OR use my A+ and leave city and go get a help desk position to gain experience. [link] [comments]  |
| CISSP requires 5 years experience beforehand. Whats the roadmap leading up to this then? Posted: 12 Dec 2019 06:53 AM PST Is it the typical CCNA then "building up" route or what? If so then I know that answer but for the CISSP specifically, you need to have been working InfoSec 5+ years first right? [link] [comments]  |
| Not sure about which field to pursue Posted: 12 Dec 2019 06:16 AM PST The tracks available at my school, I previously took a class related to Linux and I enjoyed it a lot along with working primarily with the command line. I found that I didn't mind doing very basic programs and found shell scripting interesting as well. However, I realized midway through my computer science degree that I don't enjoy programming as much as I thought so I made the switch to IT but I'm not sure what to pursue. What's profitable, fits within my interests, isn't that stress filled and would require the least human communication? I don't mind dealing with people, I'm fine with that but being surrounded by them and constantly running out of my office to deal with them wouldn't be ideal. I'm also graduating in 2021, so I want to make sure I can secure a good job in that field with minimal experience since given how my classes are set up for the next 2-3 semesters I won't be able to do internships or gain IT experience. Data ScienceLearn to use massive amounts of data to ask questions, find patterns and anomalies, and further the research and development of industries outside of IT, such as health care and biological sciences.
Data ManagementThis track features hands-on experience with data, starting in relational databases, migrating to NoSQL (big data) concepts, and culminating with building infrastructure to support data management.
SystemsStepping from the fundamentals of bare metal computing to cloud, virtualization, and software-defined networking requires a unique focus.
SecurityThe Security track provides foundational knowledge in not just "keeping people out," but also the how and why of security breaches. This specialty examines the tools and mechanisms to track who did what, and covers the exponentially growing challenges of cloud security.
DevOpsThis track covers the development of applications, as well as the role of code in the building, managing, and monitoring of infrastructure and operating systems and the packages required to run those applications.
NetworkingThe Networking track develops foundational knowledge of how networks work—everything from theory to physical devices.
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| Posted: 12 Dec 2019 01:40 AM PST I have the personality to want to help people; family, friends, the community. My people. I have been lost since high school trying to find my place in the world not knowing what career path to take. I was the definition of a social butterfly with no particular skills in anything, but can easily get the grades I want when I want. Now I'm 27 and I'm still in school. Getting a Bachelors in IT Network Management. My drive for getting through IT schooling at the top of my class is the reinforced idea of being perfect. To be the perfect guy for the members of my community to be the IT saviour for them. I purposely add the weight of everyone I know, whether they know it or not on my shoulders, because I believe in the importance of driving IT and security of our devices and our privacy. Most people are oblivious but I do it for them. I can easily get through school carrying this belief and this mindset. But what about in my career and when I start working? What jobs in my specialization in IT can I see the most impact being done that fosters helping those I love around me most? Becoming a member of IETF to help make the standards and regulations? I don't even know how viable this is; merely just a thought. Thing is I don't know the IT world enough. I don't know anyone or have any links to anyone in IT besides instructors and other students in my classes. And until I have a whole picture of the world of IT I'm not going to know my place in it. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 12 Dec 2019 05:05 AM PST Hello, I would love to get some critiques on my resume, This one IT-oriented, I am looking for an entry-level (seems to be quite hard to find in NYC) role in an environment where Linux being used, preferably System Administration. When it comes to anything Linux related, I am self-taught. I currently work in computer repair. For privacy purposes, Name, and some links to professional profiles has been edited out. [link] [comments]  |
| How to get into penetration testing? Posted: 12 Dec 2019 03:44 AM PST Would it be easier for me to get a job if I go back to school and get a degree in Information Technology, information Systems, Cybersecurity etc. Or what I'm currently doing which is getting certs and allowing them to get me jobs. I have network+ and security+ and work tier 1 help desk and my plan was to just start at help desk and work my way to pentesting somehow. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 11 Dec 2019 08:56 PM PST Help me internet..... A little background I am in a desktop support role at a HS for a year and four months. Technology breaks, I fix it. The pay is bad 30k a year, I have a BS. I get 0 support from the district IT team. I havent even been given access to our ticketing service, I use someone else's and I desperately want to leave. Talking to anyone on my team is the literal equivalent of talking to a brick wall. I passed my Comptia A+ in July (finally) thinking it would give me a leg up in this job search. NOPE! But I can barely get interviews. My resume and cover letter are pretty great in my opinion. I know that I'm terrible at interviewing. I'm introverted and I get nervous because I'm not the type to lie when I dont know the answer....with anything I need time with a question..more time that an interview would allow. Anyways I'm feeling super discouraged and I clearly need a new approach because I'm at the point where I may just accept my faith and never look for another job again. ALSO: Does anyone else find that alot of IT roles are contracts! I dont want to do contract work which also makes finding a new role difficult [link] [comments]  |
| Little to no IT jobs in my county Posted: 11 Dec 2019 08:03 PM PST I've been looking for the past year or so and I've seen maybe 1 or 2 postings for entry level help desk jobs. I want to go to college for a Computer science or Computer networking degree while I'm still young enough (26) to be able to, but I'm unsure which is more useful since I'm not certain what side of it I will enjoy the most when working. I've been debating foregoing the degree to move near Phoenix Arizona from California just to have better jobs opportunities to start my career. Basically is a degree worth it if I'm not sure exactly what type of IT work I want to get into? And is it common for smaller counties to have few to no entry IT job postings in a year? [link] [comments]  |
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| Posted: 11 Dec 2019 11:53 PM PST Most IT positions in the area (as in, the entire eastern half of my state) are contract-to-hire, and almost never allow for direct hires. I'm a Supervisor now, on track to be a manager. But I'm looking for another company where I can actually be happy as a manager, or where I can step back into a technical role as a network engineer. Since I am being prepared for management, my Director and other close leadership have confided some things to me, such as the fact that the company we use for recruiting usually lets us know when someone at our company is looking for another job. I don't have much choice other than to reach out to that recruiting company. They are by far the biggest in our area, to the point that even other recruiting companies tend to reach out to them for positions that they are unable to fill themselves. But I also cannot risk them reaching out to my management in turn and letting them know about it. I live in a right-to-fire state, so that could be enough for them to cut me loose. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. I typed this up on my phone in a hurry so I apologize for any grammar mistakes. [link] [comments]  |
| The day I was accepted into school I found out my department at work is shutting down. Posted: 11 Dec 2019 07:56 PM PST Hello, I've been in a contracting position at my company for almost a year. I recently got accepted into WGU , I want to increase my knowledge and skills. I found out today ( the same day I was accepted into school ) that my department at work is shutting down. I'm now sitting here wondering if I should keep moving forward with my degree or change careers to something more stable. Any words of support would be great !. [link] [comments]  |
| trying to get out of the military Posted: 11 Dec 2019 02:10 PM PST so I'm 19 years old , enlisted straight out of high school into the Air Force , and I'm a jet mechanic. this job is ok , but all the physical labor and long hours and stress is something I don't want to deal with for another 20 years , so Im not going to be making it a career which brings me to my question. How do I set myself up for success as best as possible when I transition to the civilian side? here's my current plan: -get my bachelors of information technology from ASU -get every cert -possibly commission and become a cyberspace operations officer??? How do I make myself as valuable as possible so I can command a decent salary in a decent location (at least starting off of course) ?? [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 11 Dec 2019 01:39 PM PST I work for a small business with about 250 employees and our IT department is a team of 5. We have a mix of developers, help desk, and a SysAdmin (me) I just got word that the company is going to be recruiting another SysAdmin and I'm worried that they're looking to replace me. I recently got promoted to this position from help desk in the summer and haven't been written up or anything since the promotion. I feel overwhelmed most days at work with the sheer workload but I don't tell my boss that because I think that's unprofessional. If this is to simply provide me and the team more help, great, but I can't help but feel like I'm looking to be replaced. What do I do? [link] [comments]  |
| Applying for a senior position with a different department. Should I inform current manager? Posted: 11 Dec 2019 08:40 PM PST I'm looking to make the next leap in my career and acquiring a Sr role with a different dept at the same organization. I will be having my first interview soon. Should I inform my manager during the interview process at all (before accepting offer)? Common sense tells me no. But I suspect he may find out the news through the hiring manager and get blindsided. [link] [comments]  |
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