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    Home Networking Why are more and more consumer routers forcing themselves as a DNS proxy?

    Home Networking Why are more and more consumer routers forcing themselves as a DNS proxy?


    Why are more and more consumer routers forcing themselves as a DNS proxy?

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 07:49 AM PDT

    Favorite Answer (and thank you to everyone for contributing to the conversation!): by /u/devman0 - It's probably just running a forwarding cache like dnsmasq. This allows shared caching for all hosts on the network and also an opportunity to serve requests for local names collected via DHCP. I doubt anything malicious is occurring here.

    Makes total sense, thank you.

    Thank you also to those who let me know what hardware/firmware they're running. Looks like many routers that proxy DNS for their connected clients do so without using their WAN DNS as backup. "Nice to know" (ugh) that my Asus XT8 just has buggy firmware, and that not all models and manufacturers are behaving as poorly.

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    Does anyone know what's going on? I noticed this trend when I started running PiHole to block ads on my home network.

    I first noticed it with my Asus router. All DNS requests are proxied through the router, even when a separate local DNS server is specified by the user in DHCP and IPv6 settings. Causing requests to often bypass the user-specified DNS, and going to the routers WAN DNS instead.

    I began looking into other consumer routers and noticed similar behavior (like with Google Nest Wifi, which still proxies DNS requests, but doesn't appear to fallback on WAN DNS like Asus). At this point, your only option is 3rd party firmware or some kind of hardware hack if you don't want this forced behavior.

    I'm not looking for a fix anymore. If I want to fix it at this point, I'll just buy a prosumer level router. What I want to know is "why?"

    Is it for added security? To monitor customer traffic? Prevent a known vulnerability?

    Anyone know what's going on?

    Clarifications: I'm not referring to ISPs. Only routers.

    Also, yes, this is what is happening on some newer routers even when you specify a different DNS in your IPv4 or IPv6 settings. The router still gives its own address for DNS lookups to the client. The router then acts as a proxy, having the client request domain names from the router first. The router then queries the specified domain name server on the client's behalf.

    Please be aware that IPv6 acts differently than IPv4. Often, the DNS is handed down from the router during a client's self-configuration (SLAAC). Some routers are behaving as expected with IPv4, but still acting as a DNS proxy for IPv6 (if it's enabled).

    Not all routers are doing this. I'm primarily seeing it in newer models and mesh kits that have been released in the last couple of years.

    Edit #2: Added clarifications.

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    Help w/ DNS Issue for Xfinity App

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 08:04 PM PDT

    I have no idea if this is the right place to post this kind of question, so apologies in advance if it is not.

    I often use the Xfinity Streaming app on my Samsung TV. Suddenly, tonight it stopped working and now just displays a message that says:

    "This web page is not available. The server at <<long Comcast address>> can't be found because the DNS look-up failed. DNS is the network service that translates a website's name to its Internet address. This error is most often caused by having no connection to the internet or a misconfigured network. It can also be caused by an unresponsive DNS server or a firewall preventing internet from accessing the network."

    All other apps work fine (Netflix, etc).

    I've tried resetting my network and changed the DNS to a manual setting (8.8.8.8). Neither did anything.

    Any ideas?

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    I need help fixing a netgear 24 port network switch

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 06:20 PM PDT

    It is a model GS724T. It is getting power but the lights won't come on except for a small chance when I plug it in.

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    Soooo, im pretty sure i fucked somethng up...

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 03:33 PM PDT

    So first off, im a noob so please try to tolerate my stupidity.

    so i wanted to turn an old router of mine into a second accespoint in my house. i read that you need to change the ip of your router so the first 3 numbers are the same and the last one diffrent. so i tried to do that but now i cant access the webinterface anymore, even under the ip i gave the thing.

    when i try to find the ip in the properties tab on my pc or ipconfig there is just nothing. when i try troubleshooting in windows it tells me the router has no ip configured.

    please help me.

    Edit: Im very stupid there was a reset button outside, im so sorry for wasting your time. Thank you all very much for the help. This is so emberrasing i swear to god im normally not this incompetant....

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    Internet temporarily cuts out when roommate get home or leaves

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 02:46 PM PDT

    Everyday my roommate gets home all the devices in the house lose all internet for about 10-15 seconds. It's when he pulls into the driveway before even getting into the house so I am assuming it has something to do with his cell phone? Wondering if there is any solution to this issue

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    Ethernet cord keep disconnecting every hour and couldn't identify the network then it's connected again a few moments later. What could cause this?

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 08:33 PM PDT

    Doubble NAT behind Comcast Business with Static IP

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 08:27 PM PDT

    As the description states, I cannot get my router (UDM-Pro) to receive my static public IP from the Comcast business modum+router. Because of Comcast's stupid rules, you cannot put the modem into bridge mode because it will wipe your static WAN IP and you HAVE to use their modem. I have tried to use DMZ but my VPN will still not connect and tracert shows 2 hops on private IP addresses. VPN has no problem connecting at another site with a dynamic IP with the modem in bridge mode.

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    Did router company lie about speed ?

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 08:24 PM PDT

    I'm using tl wr841hp v5 router , in the box and their advertisment it is said that the router is 300mbs , now I don't know much about router settings but with the settings I have I can only go up to 150mbps connection speed by checking on pc cmd and Android app , I have 2 Wifi modes in the login , one is 11bgn mixed and 11bg mixed 11bg mixed makes the router 20mhz which lowers the speed , and in 11bgn mixed I can choose both 20mhz and 40 mhz width By changing settings combinations I can get only up to 150 mbps speed with 11bgn mixed mode and 40mhz Did they lie about speed ? Is there a settings idk about? Or does 300mbps means something else ?

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    I need help with how to set up my network. I’m absolutely clueless about Moca.

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 08:21 PM PDT

    Here's a layout of my apartment: https://i.imgur.com/n8KQbKF.jpg

    Currently it goes coax outlet > modem (bridge mode since it's a combo from ISP) > Eero 6.

    At the opposite end of my apartment I have a weak / dead spot that I want eliminated. I naturally put a second Eero 6 and for the most part it's been great. Except with all the interference and other factors. I keep getting devices switching to the other Eero further away causing bad connection. I figured if I had a Moca setup instead of wireless Eero node. It would cause those devices jumping around to stay put.

    That all being said. How would I set this up? I don't have any access to any box outside since I read something about filters.

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    Linksys router as repeater with ATT fiber

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 07:51 PM PDT

    I recently moved into an apartment with at&t fiber with the Arris gateway. I have noticed that the wifi signal to one of the bedrooms is quite poor, so I am trying to setup my Linksys router in that room to extend the signal. The Linksys router has a wireless repeater setting that should be perfect for what I need. This setting has you enter the SSID of the main wifi as well as the security type and password. I've typed all this stuff in and tried to save the settings but it can never connect to my main wifi (just says couldn't connect to upstream device). I'm 99.99% sure I've entered the SSID, security type (WPA 2 personal) and password correctly but it still won't work. I've also tried the wireless bridge mode and have the same issue. Is there some settings on the att gateway that I need to modify in order for my Linksys router to be able to connect in repeater mode? My uneducated thinking is that one of the firewall settings is blocking it from connecting. Thanks in advance.

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    Bridge Mode

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 07:00 PM PDT

    Hi. I have a Netgear Nighthawk router and a Tenda Mesh MW3 system. I have two wifi networks, one broadcasted by the Netgear and another from the Tenda Mesh. I want there to only be one network broadcasted while still being able to use the Mesh to boost signal. I have read a little about Bridge Mode but I want a bit more information on how to set the Mesh, how to set the router, and what exactly does it do.

    Thanks, Famous888

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    Tp-Link CR700 Lan Ports Down

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 06:59 PM PDT

    Like the title says, the lan ports on this modem went out for no reason. They were working fine last night. Came home today from work and they aren't working. Wifi is working fine and it is receiving internet. I did 2 factory resets, shut it on and off, tried new lan cables, tried new lan cables and the same one with different devices. I cannot figure out what is going on with it. Does anyone have any advice or a fix for this? Thank you ahead of time.

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    Opinions: Mikrotik HW or pfSense VM

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 02:52 PM PDT

    I don't have the best hardware in the world, but it's what I have and I'm trying to use it to the best I can. I have a couple of servers and one could easily support a pfSense VM with a 4 port NIC through IOMMU. BUT I also have a RB750Gr3 that I have been using and works well.

    The big question to me now has come because I'm working to rearrange my homelab and home network and I'm looking to add:

    recursive dns
    site filtering
    reverse proxy
    wildcard certs across my severs
    VPN

    This leaves me looking at two options:
    using the Mikrotik as my edge device with services on VMs (probably portainer jobs) (pihole, traefik, wireguard)
    OR should I look at using the server resources to virtualize pfSense and run plugins for everything on that system ( pfBlockerNG, wireguard, haproxy)

    I also have a smaller box I might devote to the pfSense box (for those that want to scream at the screen about virtualized edge device)

    What do you use? What do people recommend: multiple purpose given containers or a centralized combined system?

    As far as I know, these two stacks should give me the same control and functionality.

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    Surge protector at outlet vs individual strips?

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 06:36 PM PDT

    I currently have two power strips plugged into my media center which supply my TV, gaming consoles, cable modem and router (one per drawer of media center). If I want to add surge protection, is there any difference in buying a wall-based surge protector and plugging both power strips into that, versus buying two surge protector power strips? Thanks.

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    Netgear Router???

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 06:22 PM PDT

    Hello, so im used to having an isp provided router so my router app doesnt tell you much nor does it show traffic log. However i visited family for a few days in the US and they use netgear idk what model but i know the app can show you a bunch of different features. Does the router log wifi traffic? I had my vpn off for an hour and was researching and it basically just looks really questionable without context. The domain names wouLd raise questions. No its not illegal just really odd and random. So can they see my wifi history easily on the app or do they have to enable logging to be able to see?? Would they have to physically go on devices and look at mine to see the wifi history? Can someone please help cause i'm very paranoid and i have ocd so its important i know how things work.

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    Upgrading my mesh installation and in need of advice

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 06:05 PM PDT

    I'm looking to upgrade my (circa 2016) Google Mesh Wifi and am frankly kind of struggling to figure out what might my best option is. I currently have three of the older Google nodes deployed (two wired, one wireless) and am really struggling with bandwidth at my home office desk. Here's my situation

    1. I have AT&T gigabit fiber. My last check at the fiber gateway shoed 985 Mbps down/830 MBPS up.
    2. The house is right at 3100 square feet of new construction spread over two stories.
    3. The three red dots on the floor plan linked below are the locations of my wired connections to the fiber gateway. The green dot is the location of the gateway itself. The blue dot is the location of my desk (no wired connection available).
    4. I have about 25 devices connected to my current network. Four TVs, three laptops, four tablets, and two phones. Only about half of those devices are in use at any given time. Everything else is an IoT device and/or occasional light use.
    5. Price is a sensitivity here (mostly due to the fact that my wife doesn't love the idea of spending too much on this), but I also don't want to buy unreliable garbage that's a nightmare to configure.
    6. I have about 20 devices connected to my current network. Four TVs, three laptops, four tablets, and two phones. Everything else is an IoT device.
    7. I'm comfortable installing this and performing basic setup, but I have no interest in spending hours on the initial install and don't want to have to do too much in the way of ongoing maintenance.

    I guess I'm looking for advice on newer mesh systems and placement of the nodes. I know I'd be all-hardwired in a perfect world, but I don't think that's an option given the fact that there's no wired connection in the front half of the house where the problem actually is. I'd consider adding one via a quick jump from the gateway in the garage, but there's nowhere for me to put a node in the extremely tight equipment closet that houses it. That likely means I'll have to include a wireless node somewhere in the mix.

    Here's my question: I'd like to be able to get away with something like the Eero 6, as it's relatively affordable and the hardware is unobtrusive. Both of those facts would go a long way with my wife. I know the Eero 6 Pro has better specs, and I've noticed that the newer Orbi hardware is super fast. Both are pricier than I think I'm going to be able to sell, though, and the Orbi nodes are massive. That's not gonna fly. I'm also considering Google Nest Wifi, but I've read reports of flakiness and know from experience that Google's mesh firmware updates don't always help things (and can sometimes actively make them worse). Again, I'd love to hear your thoughts on my options for both hardware and placement. Thanks all!

    Link to floor plan

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    Bricked my M5300-52G?

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 05:38 PM PDT

    Good afternoon all, this afternoon I accidentally erased all of the flash on my M5300 and since I have not been able to get it to boot or give me any serial output over USB. When plugging in a ethernet cable to my laptop and running "ipconfig" it automatically sets my laptop's ip to 169.254.178.77, but it gets no gateway IP, etc, and I cannot access the switch rather it be through any IP in this subnet, it's previously set IP (10.1.1.59) or the default IP. The power light also flashes amber rapidly a while after it is first plugged in. However, both of the lights on the top 10gig ethernet port are turned on and both of the lights on the bottom 49F and 50F SFP ports are lit. If I plug in a SFP transceiver to any of the ports they will also light up like normal.

    Have I hard bricked my switch or is there anything I can do to get it back to normal? To be fair, I was able to snag it for $100 from Canada on Ebay, but it would suck to have to buy another since this one has served me so well thus far.

    Thanks for your time.

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    MoCA advice needed

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 05:31 PM PDT

    My wife and I both work from home. We recently upgraded to Gigabit Fiber internet but our connections to our respective offices currently can't use it. Her connection is via WiFi, mine is via a powerline ethernet adapter.

    I live in a two story wood-frame house with lathe and plaster walls. Since we rent, wiring for Ethernet isn't really an option. However, the house is wired with TV Cable. Great so far but I've never used MoCA before so I have some questions. I know I want MoCA 2.5 so we each can get (close to) Gigabit speeds. Beyond that, I'm guessing. So...

    1. The cable in the house hasn't been used in years. Aside from cable breaks, are there any gotchas I need to be aware of using MoCA with old cable?
    2. Are there any brands of MoCA adapters I should avoid? Can anyone recommend any specific brands or models to lean toward or away from?
    3. Since I'm looking to connect two computers, are there MoCA adapters that will feed two strands of cable? Basically, can I set this up in a Y configuration using a dual connection adapter to two single connection adapters?
    4. What don't I know? What am I forgetting?

    Thanks in advance for any answers.

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    Having trouble with my power line adapter and pocket loss

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 01:42 PM PDT

    I use a power line adaptor for my online gaming but I've been suffering from pocket loss resulting in frustrating hitch lag.

    I live in a fairly modern house (20 years old) so the wiring shouldn't be all too bad.

    Any tips or tricks to help reduce pocket loss or alternatives

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    Meraki MX64 with a FortiSwitch 108P - Not able to access the switch GUI

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 05:06 PM PDT

    Hey you smart people, quick question. My brain is fried and it's probably something dumb but I've connected a FortiSwitch to my Meraki MX64 and even though I've manually configured the management IP via the CLI of the switch I am not able to access the Switch GUI. Any ideas as to what could be the issue? Thanks.

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    How to keep traffic on one router and how to join it to the main lan when needed

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 01:16 PM PDT

    Hi

    I have my broadband modem/router in the garage plugged in to a Devolo powerline adapter which then goes through the house using the electrics.

    This is using the default 192.168.0.1 subnet.

    I have just bought 3 Amcrest ip cameras, an 8 port Netgear unmanaged switch, a 2nd router and Annke NVR with 4TB inside. These electronics are in a different part of the house,not near the main ISP router.

    What I'd like to do is install the camera network in such a way that 2 things could be acheived:

    1. the network traffic stays on the netgear router. This way it doesn't matter what changes happen on the main network that cctv subnet will still be working and saving to the nvr.
    2. the 2nd option is to figure out the simplest way to then join that cctv subnet to the main network...it'd be great if it was as simple as changing/adding a couple of cables rather then router config settings.

    considerations:

    all the cameras and nvr need to have static ip's...the nvr is annke and camera amcrest, so they nvr needs to be told the ip for each camera (plug and play doesnt work if they are a different brand)...

    the cameras are also not connect to the nvr, they are powered from the poe switch. I don't know which router to reserve the IP's on

    the main modem/router is an ISP supplied skyhub 3 (its a uk specific router, not very many options inside it).

    the cctv router is an old Netgear DGND3700

    the reasoning behind this is so that when i rent out the house and move to Vietnam for a while the tenant can have a cctv system without having a lot of pain involved for me.

    huge thank you to any responses and leave a tipjar if you want

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    What is the difference between bridge mode and router mode?

    Posted: 27 Sep 2021 09:40 PM PDT

    I just recently connected my router to the home router through an ethernet cord. I was playing around on my routers admin page thingy where you can change the settings and stuff. So I noticed that there is something called a bridge mode. I spent a few minutes googling what that meant and it said that it's better to use if you have a router connected into another one, but there were pages saying it's not necessary if there isn't any interference between the two routers. What does that mean exactly? And how will I know what's best for my situation?

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    Question about power line adapters

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 04:46 PM PDT

    Hey, I'm currently running Wi-Fi to my pc and get around 300-400Mbs up and down but it sometimes has connection issues during games and I currently Ethernet doesn't seem like a reasonable option for me.

    However, Power line adapters seem perfect for me but I just don't know where to start, I'm wondering why some are way more then others and what makes one better then the other. I was looking at the TP-Link AV1000 + Passthrough and was wondering what the downsides are and what I will gain with it over Wi-Fi.

    I have Gigabit up and down rated speeds if that helps you answer the improvements better

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    Help with Actiontec GT784WNV Router

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 04:40 PM PDT

    If anyone has this router can anyone help and explain what blocking the FTP or newsgroup services mean? I have understand blocking WEB cuts off the internet completely and email blocks well duh email.

    Also I have been trying to use the website blocking feature but it doesn't seem to work. I have tried to copy and paste the generic link and the specific link but all my connected devices can access it no problem

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    Create a second network with an old router?

    Posted: 28 Sep 2021 04:23 PM PDT

    So my Wifi coverage in my house is pretty bad. I just got a free router from a friend and wanted to improve my connection. I was already able to create a second accespoint but my question is if i could create a new network and get the internet from my first router?

    Thanks in advance

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